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adamrodkey:
As a bicycle retailer I will say that it is pretty confusing trying to explain to a customer what is required to ride the bike they just bought.
Want to check out Yellowwood? No pass required. But if you get into HNF, HNF trail tag required.
BCSP? You have to pay a gate fee, AND have a state park ride pass, but only if you're on certain trails. "But that pass work for all IN state parks???" "so I use THAT pass for Yellowwood?" "No, no, that's a state FOREST, not state PARK, no pass needed there." "Oh okay, 'forest,' so the HNF tag works there?" "No, that's NATIONAL forest, not STATE forest..."


I think this should be made "easier." I have a friend from out of state but that is in IN frequently for work and makes fun of "us" for this.


Or maybe HNF could get some $$ from the park trail passes to produce some sort of color-coded map of the state indicating what is needed where.

jasonhilt:
The state parks/DNR/government are the ones that implemented the requirement for the passes.  I doubt they could tell you the actual rules.

Willyjaybob:
Wait...so what you are saying is that government bureaucrats make things more confusing..? That's a lot for me to take in. May need a minute......

MikeHufhand:
It's a great topic/issue for our HMBA Advocacy team to tackle with all the stakeholders.  The confusion, cost and complexity certainly doesn't help bicycle tourism now does it?!!!


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mtbikernate:

--- Quote from: adamrodkey on August 09, 2016, 10:09:53 AM ---As a bicycle retailer I will say that it is pretty confusing trying to explain to a customer what is required to ride the bike they just bought.
Want to check out Yellowwood? No pass required. But if you get into HNF, HNF trail tag required.
BCSP? You have to pay a gate fee, AND have a state park ride pass, but only if you're on certain trails. "But that pass work for all IN state parks???" "so I use THAT pass for Yellowwood?" "No, no, that's a state FOREST, not state PARK, no pass needed there." "Oh okay, 'forest,' so the HNF tag works there?" "No, that's NATIONAL forest, not STATE forest..."


I think this should be made "easier." I have a friend from out of state but that is in IN frequently for work and makes fun of "us" for this.


Or maybe HNF could get some $$ from the park trail passes to produce some sort of color-coded map of the state indicating what is needed where.

--- End quote ---


Three (relevant) government entities:
State PARK (many properties with trails)
State FOREST (fair number of properties with trails)
National Forest (really only one property with trails, Hoosier National Forest)


State Parks require: Lots of fees. Just to ride, Gate Fee + DNR Trail Pass.
State Forests require: fewer fees. To ride, DNR Trail Pass.
National Forests require: fewer fees. To ride, National Forest Trail Pass.


It is not that difficult to figure out. But Hoosiers have notorious difficulties understanding the differences between land management agencies, IME.

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