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Versailles State Park / Versailles Facebook name change.
« on: November 22, 2013, 05:43:23 PM »
The Versailles Facebook name has been change to Versailles State Park Mountain Bikers.

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Muscatatuck Trails / Trail Building @ The Tuck.
« on: October 27, 2012, 07:35:55 AM »
I will be building a new connector trail today, Sat, 10-27-12. It's right by Shelter # 1, at the top of the hill. I'll be there from 9 to 1 PM.

This trail will tie the recently built section across the road to the old trails.....I'll have some extra tools if anybody would like to help. Probably do some riding also, if the trails are dry enough.

Stay tuned for more trail building opportunities at Muscatatuck during the fall and winter months. With all the new contractor built trails there are many sections that need tweaking to make them play nicely with the old trail system..... Then by riding season next spring, we'll have smooth flowing, well marking trails to show off!

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I found the following Journal entry on the DINO website and thought it would be worth reprinting here, with Brian's permission.
*Please note that the article was written some time ago, but I think the theory behind PayDirt still holds true.

11.05.03 - "PAYDIRT AIN'T DIRTY" VS "KEEP IT RACING"

I opened myself up for comments after the DINO Mountain Bike Series concluded but I never expected such a strong reaction. I emailed some of the top series finishers, particularly in Sport and Expert Men. Some of these riders had taken advantage of PayDirt bonus points, some had not.

For those of you unfamiliar with PayDirt, we awarded up to 20 bonus points toward the DINO Mountain Bike Series. Points were awarded (2 per hour) for labor or advocacy efforts that improve or increase the mountain bike trail access we have. So by working 10 hours on trails, a rider could typically bump up a spot or two in the series, compared to those who did no work or did not turn in points. The series maximum this year was 600 points (6 best scores times 100 per race). PayDirt boosted that maximum to 620.

The idea is that mountain biking (and its image) needs much improvement in Indiana. This was a way to spark racers to get involved.

I wondered why some riders would not take advantage of the bonus points knowing full well the affect on their standings. There were a few who may have done trail work but did not feel it was right to turn in their hours. Brad Kosiba, very much affected by the bonus, said "I would not, even if I did volunteer to help on trails... turn in the time to help my race points. If I had to use these points to win the series that way, in my opinion, would not be winning." Will Sherman stated "I think these points are hurting the overall spirit of a championship and that many riders will feel cheated by extra points." Stephanie Brinkerhoff Riley's view was, "How does work on a track have anything to do with racing ability?"

There were several statisticians in the bunch who did calculations to figure how various point configurations could have affected the results. There were countless different suggestions on how to promote trail advocacy and volunteer labor. Some suggested a price break on entry fees. There were suggestions to lower the point value so that someone who did no PayDirt could still win by performing flawlessly.

Jason Pruitt, an Expert rider, was bumped from winning a series jersey because he did not turn in PayDirt. His view was quite different, stating "Yeah, I was bumped. But, I think it is a good idea to get people involved in trail work. We, definitely need more people to help out with trail work." The top series champion (Expert/Pro), Matt Battin, added "I think the pay dirt program is a good idea for riders to give back to the sport. 10 hrs is a small sacrifice."

The "for PayDirt" discussion was not totally focused on idealistic trail advocacy views. Part of the nature of any game (and bicycle racing is really just a game) is that there are rules. Participants should figure out how to take advantage of the rules they are given, without breaking them. Jon Clodfelter won the Sport overall title, and said "I could care less if Pay Dirt points are awarded or not, but if they are, don't act like you didn't know about them at the end of the season. Or, if you don't feel like doing trail work, act like someone cheated by getting theirs." From Alan Clements: "Every DINO series rider has the EXACT same opportunity as the next. Whether its race day or an off weekend. It is up to each individual to capitalize on those opportunities that are out there for all of us." Clodfelter added, "I do trail work on a consistent basis and felt that this was a no-brainer."

So what to think of all these arguments and opinions? Well, I personally believe it is important enough to take care of our trails (and to pursue more) that there needs to be a motivational factor in the DINO Series. What shape that might take next year has not been decided. Most likely it will involve points in the series. The quantity and method of mathematics has yet to be decided. If nothing else, I hope we have stirred up an interest in some people. Maybe we made them think about why, or why not, they should give their time and energy into more than just riding their bike hard all the time.


(Guy)  For those of you that race and are frustrated by the current rainy season we're experiencing, now's an excellent time to pitch-in and help get the trails in good shape for the upcoming racing season. Please especially consider the more remote trail systems that struggle to get enough volunteers to keep up with trail maintenance......Good Luck this year!

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Muscatatuck Trails / Beginner Trail
« on: September 25, 2010, 08:59:46 PM »
We'll be ready soon to add another section to the new beginner trail at Muscatatuck.
In case you don't know, a half mile of fine, flowing trail was completed last June around the campground area. Thanks to all the volunteers who helped, HMBA-SEC, and especially Mark Rodgers for donating the machine work.

The next part will travel up and down some ravines and across easy to build gradual side slopes, while maintaining a 5% or less grade. It should be at least another 3/4 mile to the next connection point with the old trail. So that will make a nice starter mile  run for kids and grandma's to cut their teeth on. ......Since Muscatuck County Park is right in North Vernon, it's a prime place to get people acquainted with mountain biking.

This new trail will eventually run all the way to the trailhead parking lot.

One of these days it's going to start raining again and we can work the ground. So please watch for posted Trail Build Days and be a part of keeping one of Indiana's original trail systems alive and vibrant!

BTW, Nick and I cut out the downed tree on the trail today... Happy Biking. ;)




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Versailles State Park / VSP 2010 park maps incorrect.
« on: June 09, 2010, 04:20:28 PM »
I saw some riders looking at the park map last night and scratching their heads trying to figure out where they were.
It might help somebody else by letting you know that the park maps online and handed out at the gatehouse, have 2 extra trails on them that don't exist.

Here's a crude, but accurate map.

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Versailles State Park / VSP Trail Conditions
« on: May 24, 2006, 05:51:59 AM »
Post trail conditions here.

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