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Muscatatuck Trails / Re: Trail Conditions
« on: December 16, 2020, 06:54:34 AM »
Iíve been doing some trail maintenance at the Tuck recently. Just tweaking to improve the flow and general riding experience. Removed a lot of roots, filled in some holes, and made rollovers on some huge uphill roots. ...Muscatatuck is usually a good bet for winter riding, when other trail systems are too muddy, due to the amount of rock in the soil. Happy riding!

Muscatatuck Trails / Re: How are the trails looking???
« on: April 22, 2015, 06:19:17 AM »
It doesn't appear that anybody is actively monitoring the trails at Muacatatuck right now...My suggestion would be to look at the Versailles trail conditions for guidance, since they are pretty close to North Vernon and usually have the same weather...There's also a Facebook page for VSP that's probably even more up to date.

Versailles State Park / Re: Bike demo
« on: July 16, 2014, 05:52:43 AM »
The trails should be OK to ride by this evening. Come on down and check out the fun!

Find a Trail / Re: If you only had one trail to ride...
« on: June 09, 2014, 11:55:24 PM »
With all the talk about Versailles trails, as a local rider I'd like to make a suggestion. Most riders just do the outer trails for a 13 mile loop, skipping most of the Center trail.... Try doing a figure 8  ride by adding 1/2 the Center loop in the middle of your ride. Then do Grandview, and catch the other half of Center on your way back..... It will add a couple of miles and Center has some fun stuff; whoop-de-doos, off camber steep hillside trails, etc. And you can double the downhill length  to the creek if you plan it right.


Rants and Raves / Re: No HMBA?
« on: April 18, 2014, 06:55:53 AM »
With all due respect, I believe there would be a Muscatatuck trail system without HMBA. Most of the trails were there before there even was an HMBA organization. And there is no agreement between the two, that I know of. Later trails and rehab's were built by locals and a Lowe's grant, secured by the park manager. HMBA did donate some Rhino tools.
It's still possible for local guys to just talk to park management and go out and get the trails built.

You're right though, Mike, HMBA has provided the means for bikers around the state to build trails in many areas. And their good ones!

Versailles State Park / Re: VSP Trail Conditions
« on: April 07, 2014, 06:20:39 AM »
...so when every thing else drys out. shadow is still closed till the fence comes down.

Just curious if Shadow Run just takes longer to dry or if there are other factors/unique work to be done on that trail in particular.

~Yet another Dave

Yes. the Shadow Run trail generally takes much longer to dry out than the other trails @ VSP. Especially in the cooler months. I'm no geologist, but it appears that certain areas store up water over the winter and release it in the spring. It's like a giant sponge that someone is stepping on. About the only thing you can do with the trails in those locations is be patient and wait for the water to quits seeping out of the ground.....And keep people off of them.... Unfortunately somebody rode Shadow earlier this year and make many deep ruts, slowing the drying process, and creating more work for the few volunteers there are here.
Thanks for the offer to help down here. I'm sure Mike can find something for you to do.
BTW, the official Faceboook page is called; Versailles State Park Mountain Bikers.

Versailles State Park / Versailles Facebook name change.
« on: November 22, 2013, 05:43:23 PM »
The Versailles Facebook name has been change to Versailles State Park Mountain Bikers.

Versailles State Park / Re: 24 Hours of DINO video
« on: September 10, 2013, 06:05:17 AM »
Thanks for the video and having another great race @ Versailles. You couldn't have had better weather and trail conditions.

*Check out the shot of Dennis Barber and his bike @ the 2:07 mark after he finished the race on a back rim only.... Congrats on the win!

HMBA Forum News and Information / Re: Forum Issues
« on: September 05, 2013, 06:08:59 AM »
I'd just like to thank HMBA for providing this forum all these years. I live and do volunteer trail work in the Versailles/ Muscatatuck area and the forum has been a valuable tool to reach out to bikers that use these trails. Everyone is so dependent on the web these days and this is the go to place for up to date info about Indiana trails.
   I post trail build days and anything else that riders might be interested to hear about the parks. There are many visitors who live farther away that heard good things, and read about the improvements being made on the trails from this forum and had to check it out for themselves.

I know that there are probably not a lot of HMBA members in this area, and even fewer members from out of state that ride here. Heck, the Tuck is not even a official HMBA trail system, but has still been supported and encouraged to prosper by HMBA over the years, and by the example of fine trail building that we set.

Anyway, I understand that you have to pay the bills and if the forum gets shut down to all those wankers that are too cheap to pay a few bucks to use it, so be it. It was good while it lasted. Thanks.

Versailles State Park / Re: Maps & Photos
« on: June 23, 2013, 06:24:50 AM »
so there was a discussion of folks wanting to race on Shadow run during the DINO race and I decided to look at the current Versailles trail map. When I look at it, there is a trail on the map that I haven't ridden.

http://www.in.gov/dnr/parklake/files/versailles_trail.pdf  This map shows a trail that short cuts a portion of Grandview towards Laughery Creek and ties in near the north end of Creekside. There is also another trail in the Center Loop. Is this a misprint?

I've been trying to get that map updated for years. As Elduder said, those two trails you mentioned don't exist.....Anybody know somebody in the DNR map dept?
Here's a correct map. (From page 2 of this topic)

Muscatatuck Trails / Re: Trail Building @ The Tuck.
« on: June 22, 2013, 07:22:58 AM »
Any obstacles on the new red section (area past the bridge, behind the visitor center)? I walked a short section of it last year when it was under construction but I didn't go too far.

There are no man made obstacles on the new loop. It's rated advanced because the climbs are a little steeper, ravine crossings tighter, and some rocky sections.
BTW, the Park has a excellent new map posted on their website and this section is being called the Black Trail.
Good luck @ the race, and if you have the time check out all the other new trail sections in the park. They are all built with bike riding in mind.

General Trail Information / Re: Trail Advice
« on: June 22, 2013, 06:42:04 AM »
If you're heading over to Versailles State Park I'd recommend checking out Muscatatuck County Park also. It's between Brown Co and VSP and has 10 miles of recently built and rehabbed trails.
Signage is really shaky yet, so you need a sense of adventure.


Muscatatuck Trails / Re: Trail Building @ The Tuck.
« on: June 21, 2013, 06:28:10 AM »
If it helps any, here's an up to date (temporary) map of whats @ the Tuck now. It sounds like the red colored trail is the new addition for the race.....Unfortunately, there is no new signage up yet at the park.


Town Run / Re: Top 10 reasons I use the trail when it's muddy.
« on: June 18, 2013, 06:14:46 AM »
I like to think that riders in too soft of conditions just don't realize the damage they are doing. It's hard to appreciate unless they do trail maintenance..... Wouldn't it be cool if we could give trail rutters fine tickets that required 2 hours of maintenance pay back?

My favorite experience is when I pull into a parking lot to do trail work and see bikers just coming out of the woods, bikes caked in 2 inches of mud. I ask them if maybe the trails weren't too soft to ride? They always say the trails weren't too bad. Meaning they made it through the soft spots, causing deep ruts no doubt, but they didn't have to stop, which is all they are concerned with.

In a way bikers are like horse users. As long as the mud isn't stuck on ourselves, but our mode of transportation, we don't worry about it.

Muscatatuck Trails / Re: Trail Building @ The Tuck.
« on: June 12, 2013, 10:23:49 PM »
All the west end trail reroutes are now complete..........

 And after 5 years of reroutes, new construction, tweaks and touch ups, the trail system looks pretty good to me.
 Thanks to everyone who helped out over the years.

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