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Advocacy / Re: Eagle Creek Mountain Biking
« on: May 14, 2013, 12:15:42 PM »
Just last Saturday on May 11, the Eagle Creek Park Foundation held it's first annual Iron Eagle Paddle and Run. According to them, it was a "fundraiser to help fund improvements, trail restoration projects and environmental education programs within Eagle Creek Park". One of the trail running portions of the event took place in the “Area L” piece of land on the west side of the lake. This is the same area where mountain biking/multi-use trails are being proposed. A course for the runners was blazed through the woods for the event. The course has more similarities to a road rather than a proper trail or path. At points, it is over fifteen feet wide. All vegetation was removed. No consideration was given to erosion concerns or drainage. No consideration was given to impact on wildlife. This swath was created to accommodate 138 runners for one event. The event was held in wet, muddy conditions.  Mayor Ballard, Indy Parks and the folks at Eagle Creek Park say that mountain biking isn't compatible with the natural environment on the west side of Eagle Creek. They claim that mountain bikers will detrimentally affect the natural surroundings, yet they simultaneously create, allow and promote events like this which are harmful to the park and its natural surroundings. This behavior is hypocritical. Mountain bikers and other proponents of a responsibly designed and built multi-use trail system want to know the rationale behind keeping us out while things like this are happening concurrently. We want answers, and we want them soon.

Photos here:

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Advocacy / Re: Eagle Creek Mountain Biking
« on: April 17, 2013, 10:34:52 AM »
We've had about 10-12 multi-use/mountain bike trail proponents sign up for the work day this Saturday at Eagle Creek. We need to at least double or triple that number. It will be Earth Day, so get out and do something good for mother nature. If you can't make the entire session (9 a.m. - 1 p.m.) please come for any amount of time that you can spare. We can talk, post, tweet and blog until our faces are blue, but action is what it will take to accomplish our ultimate goal of mountain bike/multi-use trails in Eagle Creek. Bring a friend. Share this on your Facebook page. We really need to see a STRONG turnout for this event, folks!


Advocacy / Re: Grant Money
« on: March 18, 2013, 11:19:37 PM »
Mountain biking trail grants are fueling communism?  Whoa. 

I haven't stopped by the forum in a few months.  There's some serious entertainment going on here!

Speaking of impositions, this is a perfect example of the "No-Good-Deed-Goes-Unpunished-Tax" being levied on Paul.  Sorry, dude.

Advocacy / Re: Eagle Creek Mountain Biking
« on: May 01, 2012, 03:53:21 PM »
I just received this email from Councillor McHenry:

Dear Mr. Juillerat,

Thanks for getting back with me.  I have never said any of those quotes! I would appreciate you setting that straight with wherever you heard it. Looking back through emails I have received from constituents and others, I believe those quotes were ones that were sent to me.  NOT from me.  In today's media world people do seem to like to twist, cut, and otherwise edit things to alter them to their liking.  Why I am the victim of this is beyond me.  I do know that putting out false information is not the way to gain respect or belief and trust in what your cause is.  Thanks again for letting me know what you heard.

Janice McHenry
City-County Councillor District 6

Her name has since been removed from the comments on the web site where it first appeared.  It's a shame that our opposition is going as far as falsely attributing statements to public officials.  Please do not contact Councillor McHenry as these are apparently not her quotes.  Thanks to everyone that reacted quickly to this, even though it was apparently a false alarm.  Feel free to keep contacting Mayor Ballard, though!

Rants and Raves / Re: Looking for opinions...
« on: April 16, 2012, 08:55:50 AM »
Work at a bike shop for almost twenty years, and it will become very obvious that road riding is more dangerous and the wrecks are way more catastrophic.  Given what I've seen over that time, I stick to the woods for the most part.

It's all better than sitting on the couch, though.

Brown County State Park / Re: I am curious about something
« on: January 10, 2012, 08:51:05 AM »
I personally know someone that was going to ride Gnaw Bone last week when everyone on here said it was dry.  They made the mistake of calling Alice first (which is what you're technically supposed to do), and she said, "No way.  Too wet to ride."

Rob, you may want to get Alice on the same page with you and the locals.  I'm not sure she has a good idea of the conditions on her own property.

Also, a *GOOD* map of Gnaw Bone would be worth it's wait in gold.  That alone is probably stopping some people.  It's confusing as hell out there if you've never been there.  Not everyone thinks getting lost is fun.

Brown County State Park / Re: Big Woods Brewing Company is the bomb
« on: May 28, 2011, 12:02:44 AM »
If they ever have the fish tacos special, get it.  Totally unique and delicious.

Brown County State Park / Re: Current Trail Map
« on: April 09, 2011, 09:06:38 AM »
The 2012 Brown County Mountain Bike Tourism Map is available for purchase online or at a select list of locations for $7.50 (plus tax).

This new map features the entire Brown County State Park mountain bike trail system including elevation profiles, points of interest and the Brown County Breakdown IMBA "Epic" route.  It also includes the ONLY map to link the Nebo Ridge and Hickory Ridge trail systems in the Hoosier National Forest. 


Here's the link to the free State Park trail map, however this map does not show the entire mountain bike trail system:


Also, there are trail signs at most intersections that look similar to this:

There is lots of additional trail information including GPS files, helmet cam, photos, Google Earth maps and more at:


Racing...from the novice to seasoned / Re: Sub-9 Death March
« on: March 07, 2011, 10:01:52 PM »
Ladies and Gentlemen, meet your roadside sag support vehicle...Ron Burgundy. We'll be wandering aimlessly around the course to fix problems and create havoc all at the same time. We'll be loaded with bike tools, stale Clif Bars, a video camera, a cooler full of Tecate and a really annoying sense of humor.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot.  We'll be arming chuckdlou with a bull horn in the passenger seat.  Just as you're enjoying your peaceful ride through the woods, you'll hear the low rumble of a VW flat four followed by 115db of hillbilly comin atcha.  Don't you just love nature?

Racing...from the novice to seasoned / Re: Sub-9 Death March
« on: March 01, 2011, 03:37:41 PM »
Man, some folks are taking this thing WAY too seriously.. I might just have to bust out the speedo for this ride to lighten things up!   :o

Dean, you are correct!  To lighten things up a bit let's dangle a carrot of sorts...

The fastest team to reach EVERY checkpoint (including the optional ones) and the fastest co-ed team will each receive 12 beautiful, tasty bottles of Bell's Hopslam. That's a case of Hopslam on the table to be won.  I know that this will make Big Daddy ride harder.  If Fett and Sally can win the co-ed division and be the first to hit every check point they would take home the entire case.

I hope the people who win are good at sharing.  Mmm...Hopslam.  Tania will have to hide it from me so I don't consume it over the next 10 days.

Brown County State Park / Re: Big Woods Brewing Company is the bomb
« on: October 02, 2010, 07:08:55 PM »
Related, older thread:

Support MTB-friendly Nashville businesses!  The Big Woods folks love mountain bikers.

The two best places to look on the web for Brown County trail conditions updates (and tons of other info) are this forum and the Brown County Mountain Biking Facebook page. 


Please look carefully in both of these places for what you need to know.  If you can't find what you're looking for, please feel free to post your question here or on the Facebook page.

We've added a general overview of camping info to www.browncountymountainbiking.com.  It can be found here:


We've also recently added a new Insider's Ride Guide:



Fantastic 4 / Re: Fantastic 4 - Directions and Information
« on: August 07, 2009, 11:22:11 PM »

Fantastic 4 / Re: Trail Conditions
« on: September 18, 2006, 03:53:05 AM »
Mortimer (Ron) and I rode Hickory last night.  We kicked it old school and did a counter-clockwise "loop" around the Hickory trail system.  We parked at east end of Nathan Avery (19).  Rolled west on 19 and then down the road to 18.  West on 18 to 4.  Took 4 to 10 and then past Hickory Grove Church.  10 to 11.  11 to 3.  3 across the pipeline to 13 crazy climb.  Lightning and thunder.  13 to road to 15.  15 past Callahan Cemetery to 16/17 loop counterclockwise (more lightning and thunder).  14 climb out to road.  Road to 20.  20 downhill to road.  Gravel back to car through the rain.

Trails were in pretty good shape.  There were the usual mud holes and horse poop here and there, but overall, the trails were about as good as these trails ever get.  We saw a few other tire tracks here and there.

We didn't time it.  We don't know how long it was.  There were not heart rate monitors, GPS units, or computers utilized in this venture.  It was hard.  It was long.  My legs hurt.  Ron's legs hurt.  There were no racers pre-riding the course.

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