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Town Run / Re: North of 96th expansion?
« on: March 07, 2022, 12:09:45 PM »
Yup!  This could be such a great corridor.

Agreed.  So glad that Fishers was able to snag that property for CHEAP.


Posted due to paywall potential.  If you do not like my disregard for correcting the formatting from copy and pasting.  That is cool.

Fishers has acquired 98 acres along the White River at 96th Street it plans to make a park, thanks to a long-forgotten agreement with a developer now mired in debt.
The land is west of Allisonville Road and will allow the city to link the new park to Heritage Park, at 106th Street and the river.
“It is heavily wooded right now and it will take some time to develop it but this is a real win for us,” Mayor Scott Fadness said.
The city bought the land for $3,100 in taxes owed from the estate of Craig Johnson, who was co-owner of Indianapolis-based Centre Properties.
From the archives: 5 ways Fishers is revitalizing 96th Street
Beginning in the 1997, Centre Properties had plans to develop the 96th Street and Allisonville property for residences and shopping. In 2007, the then-Town Council of Fishers approved an 83 acre, $500 million mixed use project called RiverPlace, which was a 1.3 million-square-foot complex of homes, apartments, stores, restaurants and shops, and two 25-story high-rises.
Environmentalists fiercely opposed the project because they said it would degrade the White River, cause flooding and pollute it. They showed up in force at several meetings about the project, held demonstrations and filed legal objections.
As part of the economic development agreement, Fishers required Centre Properties to turn over 98 acres of the most environmentally sensitive land in the floodplain when the project was finished.
RiverPlace stalls, city goes to courtBut the Great Recession in 2008 stalled RiverPlace and it never got built. Last year Johnson died by suicide and debtors began filing claims on his estate.
A bank that was owed millions in loans took ownership of the RiverPlace property in 2017 and sold it to CRG, of Indianapolis, last year. Fishers went to probate court in Marion County and argued the city was still entitled to the land along the river, as the original agreement laid out.
Fadness said the city is in talks with CRG about what might now be developed on the remaining land but “it’s just different concepts we are talking about.”
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Tim Maloney, senior policy director at the Hoosier Environmental Council, said the organization fought against the RiverPlace project for 10 years.
At the time the project fizzled the environmental council was taking legal action to stop the Department of Natural Resources from issuing RiverPlace a permit. After denying them for several years, DNR had switched course and allowed the developer to proceed if it filled in 15 acres of the floodplain. The environmentalist argued that would cause flooding.
Maloney said he was encouraged that Fishers is preserving the floodplain.
"There is a growing recognition of the river as an open space worth preserving and an argument could be made for preserving all that land,” Maloney.
He said he is still concerned about what might be developed there.
“Any development could have harmful impacts,” he said. Parks in planningThe riverfront property Fishers bought will link to the 33-acre Heritage Park, at Eller Road and 106th, home to the Historic Ambassador House and Heritage Gardens.
The city had recently identified the 96th Street area as one it wanted to convert to parks over the next two decades, when it plans to add 179 new acres to its inventory of 26 parks on 707 acres.
The acquisition also fits into an area-wide plan to preserve the White River. The White River Vision Plan seeks to clean the river and preserve natural habitats, add recreation such as canoes and kayak launches, and connect parks and neighborhoods with trails and greenways, locally and across the region.
Elsewhere in Hamilton County, Fishers and Carmel are planning to link the White River Greenway with a pedestrian bridge over the river at Conner Prairie. Carmel also will extend the greenway to connect four parks along the river between 116th Street and 146th Street.

Other - Central/South / Re: Zionsville Trails
« on: February 23, 2022, 10:01:33 AM »
I forgot I had posted this back in the day:


Town Run / North of 96th expansion?
« on: February 18, 2022, 09:37:32 AM »
I saw the news a few months back about the original project at NW quadrant of 96th and allisonville being nixed, and the land to be used for parks, and then I saw that a new project with additional land being set aside for the park was moving forward.

Anyone here providing input?  Will TRTP extend with some magical underpass and/or use of 96th street bridge to get to that location?

Would be awesome to have the interconnected White River setup with the Fishers and Carmel parks that roll up to the river being prime for trails up and down as has been discussed in these channels previously.

Other - Central/South / Zionsville Trails
« on: February 18, 2022, 09:34:26 AM »
Did anyone (like from HMBA or from the members here) have input in the design and construction of the new trails?


Town Run / New Signs
« on: September 15, 2015, 01:04:13 PM »
I really enjoy the new signs.

It adds character and it is refreshing.

I hope I am not off base in this, but this is "OUR" trail and collectively we volunteer and keep it going.  (Some volunteer much more than others, so thank you!)

It is neat to see it have some flair (needs 37 pieces of flair).  I see these types of signs at other trails and in small beach cities for actual navigation.

Thanks to whoever placed them.  If they were illegally placed, then we should make them legal!  =)

Town Run / Re: Town Run Poetry
« on: September 15, 2015, 01:01:18 PM »
Nice poem.  I wonder if they would let you laminate it and post it up at the trail head?

River Road Park/Hazel Dell Landing Park / Re: Trail Conditions
« on: September 15, 2015, 01:00:17 PM »
I agree.  I only road river rd once or twice, but I found it more difficult due to riding on a slope than a ridge.

As I mentioned in my post about Hazel Dell Landing, how do we get out there and work on the trails?  I believe if we show there is a push and initiative, then maybe the development of more trails can be had in Carmel.

I know there are members from this community HMBA and the community of Carmel that have spoken about the potential for plans in the future.  I also know many people are busy with big projects that turn into Epics...etc.  So what is the best way to get involved and give back?

River Road Park/Hazel Dell Landing Park / Re: Hazel Landing Park
« on: September 14, 2015, 08:55:02 AM »
I rode it this weekend.  It looks like it may need some signage.  I do not remember the disc course being so heavily intertwined with the trail to the point where there seems to be almost 2 trails until you hit the disc course.

It needs quite a bit of trimming.

It would be nice to do a trail system like stated below and the flood plain on down to 96th would be perfect to connect them together and use the fields that are in the flood plain along there.

The amount of land seems to be quite a bit more substantial then even Town Run.  Could we get something like the Chicago Pump track put next to the blue woods creek?  Without invading the naturally habitats?

And it would be connected to Fishers with the 106th street pedestrian bridge they have been talking about.  I think this is a County bridge project though.

Just thoughts.  I know from articles on here and elsewhere there are talks to develop it into trails and what not.

What can we do to raise awareness and encourage a MTB oasis that is just 1 mile from another trail and suddenly create a destination corridor.  It may not be an Epic quality type of area, but this would be cool!  Just need better crossings at 96th and Hazel Dell to allow safe passage from one trail to the other, unless they connect them under the 96th st bridge and then create a sprint zone next to the water conditioning plant.

Then make river rd a bit bigger up to 146th as it has been mentioned by the city and you suddenly have the "Hamilton County MTB Tour" or something generic like that.

HMBA Forum News and Information / New Opportunity? Zionsville MTB Trails?
« on: September 10, 2015, 10:22:21 PM »


Zionsville could soon be acquiring 55 acres for a new park.

Developers of the proposed Vonterra subdivision off of Zionsville Road in south Zionsville presented a plan to the Parks Board on Sept. 9 that included donating about half of the land in the 110-acre neighborhood to the town to use for a park. The topography of the site makes it unsuitable for building homes or anything else.

A render of the proposed Vonterra development and park.

A render of the proposed Vonterra development and park.
“It’s quite an expansive and attractive piece of ground,” said attorney Mike Andreoli, representing builder Ryland Homes. “It’s grown over in many aspects and pretty rough, but there are some really wonderful terrain parts of it.”

The site was previously the home of Worman’s Clean Fill and Organic Recycling, which closed after more than 30 years in business. Worman’s owner Canda Smith said the high property taxes made it difficult to continue operating in Zionsville. She has retired and plans to travel with her husband.

Smith said developers have approached her about purchasing the property for years, and she is pleased with the plan to use half of the site for a park and preserve much of the nature.

“I see great things in the future for the land,” she said. “I’ve tried to do it right.”

The proposed park is separated from Starkey Park by Eagle Creek on its western border. Plans call for it to include a southern expansion of the Zionsville Rail Trail.

Andreoli said the land could be a good fit for off-road bike trails. The site also includes a pond that is estimated to be 30 to 40 feet deep.

“It was literally the clearest body of water that I think I’ve seen in the state of Indiana,” said Steve Bullington, president of the Parks Board.

The proposed 107-home Vonterra subdivision will be discussed at the Zionsville Plan Commission meeting Sept. 21. The Parks Board was unable to vote on the land donation because it did not have a quorum.

And then the picture (in article since it does not display) shows it connecting down to Zionsville Rd...now if only they would connect it further south.  A start to a safe route into Park 100 from north side ( the train track continues....).  And a connector to some mtb trails.

Looks like it is definitely flood zone material just like most of the Starkey Park trails.  Take a look at exhibit 2 in this doc.  I am guessing all blue is flood zone.

Is this something on the visibility of HMBA?

River Road Park/Hazel Dell Landing Park / Re: Hazel Landing Park
« on: October 26, 2014, 01:40:41 PM »
So I think it could be a good outlet and could be both a loop and part of the north to south trail along the river.  This is just a fun guess and does not account for anything other than the frisbee golf course so as to be as pleasant co-park habitat people.  So if there are low areas or physical obstacles, this is just from an overhead and the frisbee course and a logged ride of it.

Blue is existing and black is just for fun.  It is meant to exit right before heading back south along the trail at the turnaround.  This could be the new leg heading south so there is not conflict between north and south riders.

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