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Title: France Park Trails
Post by: jhmace9 on May 10, 2011, 12:18:48 PM
The trails in France park are in very good shape even after all of this rain there has been very little impact on them.

Not sure why there is so little info in these forums about these trails, they are fun trails.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: john7722 on June 26, 2011, 08:43:47 AM
Any one have current trail conditions to report.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: jhmace9 on July 08, 2011, 08:05:55 PM
sorry about not getting back to you for so long but the trails are good.

Had some downed trees a couple weeks back but they have been cleaned up.

Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: gt ss on July 09, 2011, 10:27:37 PM
I was planning a camping trip there a month ago, but for camping and 3 riders it seemed expensive. Westwood charges per bike too and that just seems wrong to me.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: Otter on July 14, 2011, 07:40:25 AM
I was planning a camping trip there a month ago, but for camping and 3 riders it seemed expensive. Westwood charges per bike too and that just seems wrong to me.

Did you check with the park on pricing?  I believe (but don't quote me) that if you camp, your riding is included.  If not it should be as many of the campers bring their WallyWorld bikes and cruise around the trails anyway and I know they haven't paid extra.  Let me know if that's not the case and I'll talk with the park the next time I'm there. 

BTW, these trails stay in GREAT shape during wet periods unlike so many across the state.  I've said it before, these aren't "epic" trails, but they're much better than they get credit for and are often overlooked. 
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: gt ss on July 14, 2011, 05:51:11 PM


 I've said it before, these aren't "epic" trails, but they're much better than they get credit for and are often overlooked. 

Oh don't get me wrong, I really like the variety of trails there.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: jhmace9 on July 16, 2011, 01:47:31 PM
Trails were perfect today.  Couldn't have asked for anything better.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: Adim_x on July 16, 2011, 02:36:53 PM
They are ok, but i never felt like i had any idea where i was going.  It seems as if i spent more time looking for the single track then riding it.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: jhmace9 on July 20, 2011, 08:00:48 AM
They are ok, but i never felt like i had any idea where i was going.  It seems as if i spent more time looking for the single track then riding it.

You should either go out there when someone who knows the trails goes out so they can show you the best path or do what I did and get a copy of the map the DINO guys use for the race that is there in august and you can just follow that.

I went there the weekend after the race and they had plenty of maps left over.  I then just carried that around with me until I knew the way around.
This years race is 8/14 I think.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: gottabeoutdoors on July 20, 2011, 08:30:59 AM
Any chance you can make that map available here?

I don't think about going back to France because I feel lost without a map to get a feel for the lay of the land...

Thanks in advance!
Mick
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: Bentcrank on July 20, 2011, 08:44:39 AM
I would start here
(http://www.dinoseries.com/MTBmap08.JPG)
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: jhmace9 on July 20, 2011, 09:24:05 AM
yup, that'd be the one.

I always park at the beach parking lot at number 1 and start and finish from there.

I've modified the path a bit by removing some of the fourwheeler paths to do more singletrack but then I'm not worried about having two way traffic on the trails like a race course designer would have to consider.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: gottabeoutdoors on July 20, 2011, 09:33:08 AM
Thanks guys!!!    :D
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: kjsayers on July 20, 2011, 05:38:46 PM
Although that map is the best you are going to get there are a lot of cross trails and off shoots.  A lot of them around the paw paw path and meadow.  It can really mess your flow up.  I have been there several times but not in a year.  I always get sorta lost.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: craigebaker on August 11, 2011, 10:47:20 AM
IMO, if the park seriously wants to attract mountain bikers, then trail signs need to be put up for a course that flows. Most mountain bikers want to flow and ride fast and it's not possible at France Park unless you've been riding there for a long time and have learned the maze of trails. The map doesn't help when you're in the middle of the trail system with 3-5 choices for where to go in the span of less than 1/10th of a mile.

It seems to me that the DINO race is an opportunity for the park to mark a course off. If they put up permanent signs for that layout, it will be easier for MTBers who go there in the future.

Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: holzhaus on August 11, 2011, 04:52:44 PM
Please let the park know that you want a marked route. I offered to permanently mark the DINO route a few years ago for this reason, but they declined the offer.
The park board needs to know that people care about the mountain bike trails. Write a letter, or better yet visit a park board meeting.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: holzhaus on August 01, 2012, 04:47:46 PM

I just found out about a major change to management at France Park: http://pharostribune.com/local/x1236702682/County-shakes-up-management-of-France-Park
The new manager seems to be very interested in new ideas for the park. This could be a great opportunity to improve mountain biking in that part of the state.
Do any of you live nearby and interested in improving the relationship with the park and mountain biking? I'll be talking a lot of details with him soon and would like to have backing of some locals.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: jhmace9 on August 02, 2012, 07:43:31 AM
Can't say i like the blurb about attracting horse riders.  That's the last thing we need out there.
Bad enough dealing with walkers with there dogs crapping in the middle of the trails.


As for all the signage questions; from what I was told they try to leave them up but being that it is a campground filled with idle teens they don't seem to last long or get pointed the wrong way.  You know fun stuff!!
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: JMcFly on August 02, 2012, 05:36:12 PM
I'm in.  I'm from Monticello and now live in Noblesville where we still drive up there several times throughout the year to camp, swim and ride.  My twin brother lives in Monticello and he just got recruited too and doesn't even know it.  I'll see you at the DINO event at France Park.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: todd on August 13, 2012, 10:02:50 PM
I was very happy to hear about the new park management and perspective on mountain biking at this weekend's DINO event - for those north of Indy, this would be a great option!
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: holzhaus on August 14, 2012, 07:36:27 AM
Yes, I am extremely excited by their vision. The new management is committed to putting time, energy, and significant money into making France Park a "destination worthy" mountain bike trail.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: Fett on August 14, 2012, 04:21:44 PM
From what I recall the "idle teens" that were taking down signs were the children of park officials, so it was going to be kind of hard to get rid of them until they got old enough to engage in larger crimes :)
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: tmac on August 15, 2012, 08:32:24 AM
Are these the same jokesters who performed the reroute by removing tape a couple seasons ago during the race that had several riders going the wrong way?  >:(
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: Otter on August 20, 2012, 09:33:36 AM
More good news at France Park.  A buddy and I went riding there yesterday and the gate fee has been lowered to $2 for MTB'ers!  That's great news as it use to be $7 for MTBers and $2 for everyone else.  I can't wait to see what else might come of this change in management.  I tried to meet with Lucas (new Super) yesterday but he was off and I'll try to make contact and see what we can do to help out. 
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: holzhaus on August 20, 2012, 09:37:42 AM
Yes, very bright future... Lucas intends to invest money, time, and effort into professional trail consultation... including overall layout planning, new trail construction, markings, etc. More details coming soon!
Riders who live anywhere near France Park: show your support by at least riding there... then getting involved when the time comes - we'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: Firehouse on August 20, 2012, 01:03:55 PM
$2 gate fee for MTB'ers!  That's the best news local riders have had in a long time.  I'll be showing my support with a ride there in the near future.  I'll try and find Lucas so I can introduce myself.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: jim_michaux on August 20, 2012, 08:06:23 PM
$2 is very good news!  haven't been there this year yet.  good to know.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: Harbinger on August 26, 2012, 09:51:16 PM
I rode today with Firehouse and his son. Its a beautiful place, definately worth supporting. The current trails have some great sections but also areas that need work. I felt as though there were flow issues and it has some pretty abrupt climbs. I'm really anxious to see what happens with the new management. We spoke to some of the park employees and it sounds like some excellent stuff is on the horizon.     
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: Firehouse on December 04, 2012, 10:47:55 AM
France Park trails are in the news today.  The article title is about WiFi, but half of it talks about the future of multi-use trails in the park.  Encouraging!

http://pharostribune.com/local/x1332346504/Internet-coming-to-France-Park (http://pharostribune.com/local/x1332346504/Internet-coming-to-France-Park)

Go out and ride!
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on December 20, 2012, 12:58:32 PM
I made a trip up to France Park yesterday to meet the new Park manager and check out the work his crews have been doing.  They have done some great work and Brian and I rode the new section with photos attached below.

There is a lot of opportunity for a unique trail system.  I plan to schedule a volunteer work day in January (looking at Jan 20th).

(http://indytrekracer.smugmug.com/Sports/Fance-Park/i-vLFWC25/0/L/IMAG0355-L.jpg)

(http://indytrekracer.smugmug.com/Sports/Fance-Park/i-4L5qNgn/0/L/IMAG0354-L.jpg)

(http://indytrekracer.smugmug.com/Sports/Fance-Park/i-xRrdWt8/0/L/IMAG0352-L.jpg)

(http://indytrekracer.smugmug.com/Sports/Fance-Park/i-HqhwKPz/0/L/IMAG0348-L.jpg)

(http://indytrekracer.smugmug.com/Sports/Fance-Park/i-XQ9VG5f/0/L/IMAG0346-L.jpg)
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: gt ss on December 20, 2012, 08:32:23 PM
nice looking trails :) Gotta get back up there next year.
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: Adim_x on December 24, 2012, 11:46:09 AM
That new section is beautiful.  I am originally from Logansport and go back to visit family.  However I rarely ride the trails because I never had any idea where I was going.  I am excited for these developments and look forward to riding there when I return.   
Title: Re: France Park Trails
Post by: holzhaus on December 24, 2012, 03:31:26 PM
Article in the Logansport paper: http://pharostribune.com/local/x964855033/France-Park-changes-promote-healthy-lifestyle (http://pharostribune.com/local/x964855033/France-Park-changes-promote-healthy-lifestyle)