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Other Great Indiana MTB Trails => River Road Park/Hazel Dell Landing Park => Topic started by: deanarammalamma on August 11, 2009, 06:45:31 AM

Title: Trail Conditions
Post by: deanarammalamma on August 11, 2009, 06:45:31 AM
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Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: faster on a 29er on August 23, 2009, 11:30:09 PM
Based on feed back from "you" we made adjustments to the trail today.  Until enough tires pack the loose stuff, we will hold off on any further refinements. 

Please continue to post your input

Typically we have work crews on the weekends.  I have a few tools if you prefer to work during the week? Just let me know

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Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: bnferguson on August 29, 2009, 10:36:51 PM
Rode it today ~4-5. Good up top and a bit too soft down low. Didn't notice how soft until I came out and there was stuff on my tires. Sorry! =(

Probably will be good tomorrow.

On the upside it felt lots better than last time! The bench on the lower part still isn't benchy enough and the trail still needs some more tires but given some time and tires this is going to be fantastic. The layout is better than expected for a gateway and I had a great time riding it today - was exactly what I needed. Will continue to make it part of my "road" rides (Head down to River Road hit the trail N-times to add mileage then head back. Great for getting a bit of road in but still getting a bit of off too). More tires! Can't wait until it's all nice and packed.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: bnferguson on August 29, 2009, 10:39:54 PM
Oh yeah and whatever adjustments were made (I'm guessing there was one around the turn around? Seemed less abrupt.) great job! Felt way smoother and beginner like this time.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Dayres on October 16, 2009, 03:48:10 PM
Would this trail be a good trail for 5 and 6 year old boys on bmx style bikes?  I'd like to expose my sons to riding on trails, they both want to try out what dad has been doing this Summer, but Town Run is a little too much at this point.

The fact that it is a relatively short loop is a plus. Any input is appreciated in advance, thanks.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: indym3 on October 16, 2009, 10:44:11 PM
Its a short loop so if the kids have to walk your bike through some areas or hills its not going to take all day.  I would probably say that 7/ 8yr olds and up would be ok if they are proficient on pathways.  In my opinion its not flat and smooth enough for most 5 or 6 yr olds.  There is a few spots you can cut over to the paved pathway if it doesn't work out.   If you do decide to check it out it would probably be a good idea to walk it first with the kids to make your own judgement.

Also there are no signs at the entrance to the trail but its to the left (north) of the canoe launch at the south end of the park. 
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: ERJ-Drvr on October 22, 2009, 04:42:06 PM
Rode this trial for the first time after riding at TRTP and like everyone has said I would agree it needs some traffic.  Unlike TRTP the leaves are deep which makes getting to know the trail a bit of a challenge.  If you ride TRTP tell all your friends to check out this trail after a ride at TRTP because itís only about 5-7 min from TRTP.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: faster on a 29er on November 10, 2009, 01:09:29 PM
Thanks to the Hamilton County Parks Dept.  They cleared the leaves from the trail last week. The sign proofs are nearly complete so this trail will not remain hidden for much longer.

Please feel free to contact me if you would like to be on the crew helping with the final adjustments?

Steve Surette
513 4383 
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: faster on a 29er on January 21, 2010, 07:55:11 AM
Nothing like snow on the trail to illuminate the mind. 

Several sections are to narrow and or have to much slope. 

When conditions are better please let me know when you would like get out there and help us make the adjustments.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: nzeckner on March 16, 2010, 02:01:01 PM
Any word on conditions today?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Spotty on March 16, 2010, 07:24:48 PM
I live very close to this trail.  The lower part of it is trail was likely under water if not still.  The river level has just started going down.  Best to stay clear of it and give it a chance to dry up.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: nzeckner on March 16, 2010, 09:10:49 PM
Thanks for the info Spotty! I was worried about that.  I hadn't been to this trail yet so I wasn't sure how close to the river it was.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: faster on a 29er on March 18, 2010, 10:50:09 PM
Get in before it rains this weekend.  I got ten laps in today. Refreshing! Cleared most of the sticks. 

I am happy to report that this "Gateway" trail was designed & built above the seasonal flooding. 

Go for 10 laps in less than 1 hour then go home and get your girlfriend or wife & children.  This trail is built to introduce your friends to the sport.  In places, it's narrow for a beginners trail.  Some adjustments/improvements are planned.  However, sight lines are excellent this time of year and should remain so throughout our summer foliage.  Remember the Park Dept. is promoting this as a multi-use trail so please follow the IMBA "rules of the trail" and leave "no trace".

Please PM me to be on the work-crew email list.  This summer the Carmel Parks Dept. has granted us access to work the land at the Hazel Landing park.  So please contact me if you are interested in natural surface trails along White River.

Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave Tozer on March 22, 2010, 04:14:13 PM
I rode 6 laps yesterday, before the rain came.  The river clearly hadn't reached the trail.  It was grippy, but not too soft.  I posted a video of one lap, just for the heck of it.

   http://www.vimeo.com/10353197

I'm sure the rain today will soften it up too much, but it should recover quickly. Thanks to those who made it possible.  A great intro for mountain bike beginners, and a nice option, conditions permitting, when Town Run is closed.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: faster on a 29er on March 22, 2010, 04:45:30 PM
Dave Tozer you rock!  Thanks for the video and laying down the first official lap time (4:57)!  Watch ur back, my 8 yr old is gunner for you!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: nzeckner on May 31, 2010, 08:26:31 PM
I was out on Saturday afternoon and found quite a bit of broken glass on the trail by the north overlook. Picked a lot of it up but be on the lookout.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: wedge34 on June 01, 2010, 08:38:33 PM
Just got back from a couple of laps. A lot of downed branches, got as many as I could pick up.  Trail is pretty dry, only a few slick patches down by the river.

On another note, there were 3 teens in a green toyota going about 30mph down the middle of the paved pedestrian trail on the top.  Called 911 and I'm pretty sure he got stopped.  Just keep an eye out for the stupids.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: vw4lif on July 02, 2010, 08:16:12 AM
So I made my first trail ride ever yesterday at River Road.  Had a lot of fun and it certainly was a great way to wind down after a day of work.

I did notice a large tree down on the lower section of the trail.  I could carry through without heading off the trail, but definitely not something you could ride through with any skill level.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: TonyLaMere on July 02, 2010, 08:56:13 PM
Long time "lurker", finally decided to register and post!

Rode River Rd. for the first time on Wednesday, and I also came to a halt because of the downed tree on the lower trail. I stepped over and through it, like the previous poster. It's too big to move by hand, it's either gonna need a chainsaw, or something else to get it out.

Also, I noticed quite a bit of broken glass on the top trail, particularly by the entrance closest to the canoe launch. I didn't have anything to clean it up with, so I had to leave it.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: faster on a 29er on July 03, 2010, 01:27:49 PM
Hey guys, thanks for the heads up.  Tree was removed from lower trail today. 

Got it out with a Silky Zubat hand saw http://www.gemplers.com/product/146970/Silky-Zubat-330-Curved-Saw

Work crews are scheduled for 7-19.  Plan to flatten some of the leaning sections then move south to Hazel Landing Park - the next "Gateway" trail.  The work is hard.  Skill set is maybe just one step above ditch digging!  Come have some fun.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: nzeckner on July 25, 2010, 08:44:52 AM
We got quite a bit of rain last night in Fishers (about 6 miles from trail) so I'm guessing the trail is muddy. Bummer too, now that its finally cooled off!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: faster on a 29er on July 25, 2010, 10:04:17 AM
Yesterday morning, I checked on River Road, Hazel Landing & Town Run. Since today the weather is much improved, I plan to do the same this am. I ride from my house so the loop works even if the dirt is not ridable.  Unfortunately, sections of Town Run are on the way to another user group (horses or swamp buggies)!!  I see it as a "perfect storm" of several factors including bad weather combined with a sport that is becoming more popular.

Until there are full time employment positions tasked with trail care maintenance, I am suggesting a volunteer trail crew connected by email (not the HMBA forum maybe yahoo group?) that patrol "their trail" regularly (every other day). They would be equiped to put-out small "fires" on their own and be willing to form groups for larger tasks & or re-routes when needed. This should free up HMBA to handle State wide issues while we take care of the trails in our back yard.

I will begin this effort in Hamilton County. If you are interested in being part of YOUR TRAIL Care Crew please email me your contact info with the tasked you prefer ( trash sweeper, mowing, trimming bushes, cutting trees, fixing mud holes, adding features or re-routes...). There will be 1-2 hr monthly clinics for you beginners to orient on safely completing your task.

Questions? Call me 513 4383 or email steve@gsinspect.com   
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: nzeckner on July 25, 2010, 11:47:52 AM
Just got back from the trail.  I think its a yellow.  I was leaving tracks on most the trail, and there were a few very muddy spots.  Didn't ride past the top part of the trail, it was also a little slick for my newbie liking :)
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: faster on a 29er on July 25, 2010, 06:06:33 PM
Got out on the tandem today with mrs surette, nice! The view from the overlooks - lower trail was mostly mud & the task of regular trash pick-up is needed. I will also ask the parks dept for seasonal trash cans at the overlooks.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: lovetrail on July 25, 2010, 08:25:43 PM
I rode the lower about 3pm and it was just fine.  Nice to see a trail actually drain after a rain!!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: faster on a 29er on September 19, 2010, 09:39:14 PM
Adjustments to Lower trail began today.  I missed the memo on everybody wearing orange.  A big thanks to the Hamilton County Park dept. & Correctional dept.  It takes a team and many man hours to build & maintain natural surface trails.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: TonyLaMere on April 06, 2011, 05:21:46 PM
any updates at RRP?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: faster on a 29er on April 19, 2011, 11:24:56 PM
I road all three trails along the once flooding White River.  I noticed a gang on bmx bikes.  Then ran into them again at TRT.  Great activity on this trail and the Hazel Landing path is well used by hikers, many with dogs. 
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Catrin on June 19, 2011, 08:52:34 AM
I hiked River Road yesterday to check it out and noted quite a lot of glass on the upper trail not far from the gate. I didn't have gloves or anything with me to clean it up with. Also found my fingers itching for some clippers for a couple of small areas on the trail.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: rook on October 02, 2011, 07:00:56 PM
Hiked Hazel Dell Landing today with family. There is a large tree that has fallen across the trail maybe ten minutes walk from parking lot. Need gas powered chainsaw(I don't have one).
Did not see any tire marks on trail. Nice trail but needs traffic.


Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: faster on a 29er on October 30, 2011, 09:13:51 PM
This volunteer cut out that tree today. Thanks to the hiker walking by with his dog, it made a nice bench.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: nelsondad on November 05, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
Thanks for taking out the downed tree. The entire trail was cleaned of debris last week also. Was that you or the Carmel Parks Department employees who do the routine maintenance?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: faster on a 29er on January 07, 2012, 10:35:03 PM
A small but hardy crew of four volunteers made it out in today's warm weather.  River road is still drying out. Hazel Landing is ready to ride and has more people & dogs using it.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: bluestarbass on March 16, 2012, 12:03:48 PM
has anyone been on either of these trails lately.  Id like to go ride after work.  Ive never seen another MTBer on there, so I assume they dont get used much.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: dirtetimo13 on May 22, 2012, 01:12:17 PM
I haven't been in a couple of weeks, but it's usually in great shape. I would love turning it into a full loop at some point in time. It dries out much faster than Town Run
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: short commute on May 22, 2012, 08:40:02 PM
I rode it last week and it needed a good weed wacking.  The growth is up into my bars.  Otherwise, the surface is looking good.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: faster on a 29er on June 06, 2012, 12:20:14 PM
Trail is opened back up again.  Downed tree removed, overgrowth has been cut back
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: onlyontwo on June 06, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
Man, you are a trail clearing ninja!  Thank you!

Cheers,
Andy
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave Tozer on March 12, 2013, 08:26:14 PM
Believe it or not, the trail was pretty good tonight. Definitely rideable. I was out on an urban ride and cruised through the park. I had been assuming the trail would be too soft, but it was OK.

Got me some trail today! Woohoo! :D
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: RiverBankRider on March 15, 2013, 12:39:55 PM
I rode the River Rd loop today and it has firmed up since last week.  There is a standing pool of water just before the entrance, but the rest, I'd call Yellow.  It ain't much, but if you're getting tired of riding circles in the garage, it'll do!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Nic on June 02, 2013, 09:21:06 AM
anyone checked conditions? I know this little short trail dries pretty quick  ;D

Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Nic on June 02, 2013, 02:49:49 PM
trail is ok to ride. no standing water.only problem is a tree down across the trail. If no one can get to it with a chain saw i will go cut it with a hand saw tomorrow. let me know............thx
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Nic on June 03, 2013, 08:30:58 PM
Tree removed  ;D
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: RiverBankRider on June 04, 2013, 11:22:36 AM
I do this short loop all the time and will try to weedwack the top section this weekend.

*6/9/2013 Update* I weedwacked the trail entrance and upper section today.  You should be good to go without having to wade through the tall grasses.  I didn't ride it or check the lower section, so I can't comment on the condition of the lower section.  The last time I rode it, there was some erosion at the metal 'feature' in one of the dips in the lower section.  Iit might be tricky for any total beginners and you can't really hammer through this dip due to the hole. 
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: RiverBankRider on June 18, 2013, 10:53:25 PM
I made it back to River Road Park to trim the lower section.  I'd done the top section last week and it is looking pretty good again.  +1 on some new thicker trimming line.  I was using some thin stuff, but read that someone was using .105 mm line that was good for chopping back the honeysuckle.  I replaced my line with the thick stuff and it doesn't break as often and slices right through encroaching brush.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: faster on a 29er on June 22, 2013, 07:33:59 AM
Thanks for the trail work this summer

 I plan to mow at TRT south loop tmro w/ walk behind bush hog from Runyon Tool rental. Let me know if you would like to join or need any equip. After mowing TRT I plan to evaluate Hazel Landing & RR. The new frisbee golf at Hazel landing should be open

Steve
Five one three 4383
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: John Stewart on June 30, 2013, 04:52:07 PM
Rode both trails this afternoon (sunday) and conditions were excellent.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: ryantrek on July 01, 2013, 05:42:36 PM
 I attempted to ride hazel landing Saturday, but was losing track of the trail with the new areas all chopped up for the Frisbee course.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gt ss on July 01, 2013, 07:50:19 PM
I attempted to ride hazel landing Saturday, but was losing track of the trail with the new areas all chopped up for the Frisbee course.
sounds like it's been "Rangelined" :(
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: RiverBankRider on November 20, 2013, 10:41:05 PM

I don't have a gas chainsaw to handle the downed trees on River Road Park's trail, so I thought I'd post up for anyone that may be so inclined as to clear it.

There are 2 downed trees.  The first one is on the trail, in the first dip from the trail-head, upper section.  I believe the second is on the lower section, below the first overlook. 


If we don't get someone to chainsaw out the upper tree, then riders can still make it to the trail, past the debris if they have some momentum. 


The downed tree on the lower section can be navigated around too, but much more technical, with the tree broken off, just below the trail and a large branch to ride over, just past the outcropping tree trunk.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: RiverBankRider on April 17, 2014, 06:56:21 PM
River Road Trail is looking good. I'd call it green except for some obstacles that have been present all winter.



Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: msuyguy on May 04, 2014, 12:12:51 AM
5/3/2014  -First mountain bike ride ever.. as in - ever in my life. 


River Road was solid, no mud, 1 tree limb is down on the lower part of the run that could be moved with some muscle.  Some trail runners and only 1 other biker.


Hazel Dell also solid, no mud, quite a few big branches and hole trees down across the trail.  Not a single rider encountered in over 2 hours there.  Lots of Frisbee golfers towards the back part.   Also, there's TONS and I mean TONS of animal waste on the trail.  At first I thought someone didn't pick up after their dog but if that was the case they must have had 30+ dogs. 
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: RiverBankRider on September 16, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
River Road Park is now green. The stinging nettles have been cut back.  The surface is somewhat soft... probably because of the somewhat low traffic this trail gets.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: jsommer on September 29, 2014, 06:52:48 PM
Just rode the Landing trail so I thought I'd give a quick update (not sure how many/often riders visit this trail): overall decent condition,  a few sticks here and there but nothing that should cause a problem.  I'd suggest wearing pants as trail becomes pretty narrow due to some hearty plants.

I wish this was more of a loop you're of trail (doubt I'm the only one) for safety reasons.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave Tozer on April 16, 2015, 09:12:19 PM
It seems like the same time each year that I am out on an urban ride and find that the River Road Park trail is OK when Town Run is not.

Aside from a tree down across the lower trail, it's good to go!

Single track is single track, right?   :D
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: K_W on September 14, 2015, 03:05:06 PM
River Road Park:

It needs work.  First there is a tree down across the lower leg... Still.  It is not bike crossable and looks to have been there a long time.

As a "gateway" trail for pure beginners, it is in need of some attention one spot in particular where a well used access to the water crosses both trail legs the ground is so worn, the path ledge is gone and it is so steep and covered with the loose gravel that it is nearly impossible to ride across without losing your back tire.

I had to stop to right myself more times on that tiny little trail than I've ever had to do at Fort Ben or even the whole of Town Run.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: mrcs007 on September 15, 2015, 01:00:17 PM
I agree.  I only road river rd once or twice, but I found it more difficult due to riding on a slope than a ridge.


As I mentioned in my post about Hazel Dell Landing, how do we get out there and work on the trails?  I believe if we show there is a push and initiative, then maybe the development of more trails can be had in Carmel.


I know there are members from this community HMBA and the community of Carmel that have spoken about the potential for plans in the future.  I also know many people are busy with big projects that turn into Epics...etc.  So what is the best way to get involved and give back?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions OKAY for beginner 11 y/old?
Post by: skrap on October 01, 2015, 12:10:13 PM
Based on the Sept. '15 posts above, I'm hesitant to bring my daughter to Hazel Dell or River Road for her first trail experience.

Should go elsewhere?  (the beginner trail at Ft. Ben seems a bit boring)  Any other suggestions?

Thanks for any info!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions OKAY for beginner 11 y/old?
Post by: djkouza on October 01, 2015, 12:42:56 PM

I took my 12 and 14 y/o to Town Run for their first rides ever.  Both seemed to do fine.  I just called out to them the path (ie.  stay left to avoid drop, etc.)


I didn't think Hazel or River Road were too bad, though they were less traveled, so the path was narrow, which might make it harder for a new rider.  I guess I don't even know what the beginner trail @ Ft. Ben is ... I only ever ride the two loops.





Based on the Sept. '15 posts above, I'm hesitant to bring my daughter to Hazel Dell or River Road for her first trail experience.

Should go elsewhere?  (the beginner trail at Ft. Ben seems a bit boring)  Any other suggestions?

Thanks for any info!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Bman on May 23, 2016, 10:33:32 PM
I walked the trail tonight and there are 2 large trees down on the lower portion of the trail near the south end of the loop.  The weeds are also overgrown and need a good trimming.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: ERJ-Drvr on May 09, 2017, 05:23:03 PM
I worked on the trail about 4 hours yesterday weed eating & cutting down honeysuckle.

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