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Title: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: WheezerMF on May 28, 2008, 12:56:11 PM
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Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on July 06, 2008, 03:56:45 PM
The HMCSI (Hoosier Mountainbike Crime Scene Investigations) labs have been busy analysing the tire tracks left in clearly muddy trails and 97.43% of these tracks are left by department store bikes.  Clearly this is a plot by the large box stores to ruin our trails. :o

Ok, we don't have a CSI lab and department stores aren't out to trash our trails, but I have spent a lot of time at Town Run when the trails  are or were recently muddy.  The most of the tracks I see appear to be very entry level bikes.  This trend is backed up by other trail workers from around the state, and matches the type of bike I typicall see on muddy trails.

While there are signs posted not to ride on muddy trails and it is hard emotionally to see some one riding on a very muddy trails, I have found that the best approach is to remain calm and use the opportunity to educate the rider.  So when I am on the trail and a mud covered rider approaches, I take a moment to look at them and there bike.  Typically, under the mud, I see a rider who has not turned a lot of off road laps.  I have seen everything from the Carmel couple in very nice clothes and on new hybrids, to the helmet less rider in a tee shirt who is riding a $99 walmart bike. 

I try to start the conversation with a friendly greeting, and then ask them if they ride at Town Run very often.  Usually they will tell you how they are riding for the first time or just started riding here recently. 

From there, you can have a positive but firm conversation with them.  I try to cover the following points


I really prefer the times when the trail is clearly too muddy.  The harder times are when it is marginal.  Trails don't instantly go from bad to good and on days like Saturday, when its really humid and overcast, the marginal conditions can last all day.  Many times I have looked at the trail and decided not to ride myself, but didn't say anything to those who were about to ride.  These times are worse when there are mud holes. 95% may be in great shape, but the other 5% is going to take a beating.  I guess I try to pick my battles.

The mud holes make it worse, because they slow the drying process.  While it mostly first timers out hours after a thunderstorm.  After a full dry day, more experience riders will start showing up.  They ride enough to know to wait for the trails to dry, but haven't done enough trail work to understand that trails that have taken a beating from heavy use may start to take longer to dry. 

Any way, I guess the point is to be careful not to unload too harshly on those out in the mud.  Most really have seen to many mountain dew commercials and think riding in the mud is part of being a mountain biker, or they don't realize that mountain biking is more than a crushed gravel path.  So try to be understanding and yet use the opportunity to help educate them. 

Paul
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave Tozer on July 06, 2008, 05:15:43 PM
I concur with everything Paul said. As a matter of fact I set my mind to accomplish 2 goals during time at the trail yesterday. 

  (1) Fix the mud-hole

  (2) Educate those riding who didn't know any better and do it in a very friendly way - seeing myself as an ambassador for HMBA and Town Run.  I started every conversation with a very friendly, "Hi, how you doin?"  For quite a while while I was working on the mud-hole there was still standing water and I asked folks to ride right through it so the trail didn't get wider. I briefly explained that their intentions were good for wanting to ride around the water/mud-hole but the best thing for the trail was to go right through it.  They were ALL receptive to it when approached in a friendly way.  Many stayed for several minutes to talk about trail maintenance, giving me an opportunity to tell them about this site, the opportunities for them to volunteer with trail maintenance, etc.

Out of the 25 people I saw riding, there was only one that really troubled me.  A HMBA "regular", who clearly had to know better, was out there.  I will NOT mention the person's name - ever, to anyone. I have no desire to publicly call that person out - that is not my point.  I was disappointed but kept my comments professional and focused on education - even with that person. That person said that Paul Arlinghouse said on the web site that it was OK to come out after noon. I reminded that person that on the same thread he also said that just because the gate is open, doesn't mean the trail is OK to ride.

So, 96% of the people I saw on the trail Saturday were JUST as Paul Arlinghouse says - folks that really haven't done much riding and honestly didn't know better. I enjoyed my chats with those folks and I bet we see new volunteers as a result.  I am taking the mind set that doing trail work requires my being friendly and instructive, regardless of some underlying feelings I might have.  Also, and VERY importantly, there was a time I didn't know better!  Sure, it's been many years, but the fact still remains that a lot of people figure its mountain biking, why would you have to worry about what kind of condition the trail is in? Why wouldn't you ride around a mud hole? Stuff like that.

Those of you who have shown me how to do trail work have been a good example for me. Thanks.

 8)
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on July 17, 2008, 01:17:46 PM
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When it settles down- could someone help those of us who are on the newer side of the MB thrill-ride better understand how to determine when TR is closed.

Park Closed vs Trail Closed:  The park only officially closes in extreme situations (Floods, Freeze Thaw, Dangerous situation like trail erroding into the river, or excessive trail damage).  The Park is officially closed by Indy Parks when the gate is closed.  Opening and closing the gates is a big logistical pain in the butt, and we can not close the gate every time it rains and reopen it when the trails dry.  So we have posted signs saying the "trail is closed when muddy".  This is some what subjective, as what I deem to be too muddy may be different from someone else's opinion.  and I will talk more about that later.  So it is up to each rider to be proactive in making sure the trail is very likely to be dry enough to ride.  I look at the both the weather forcast and the past 24 hour rain totals before driving any where to ride off road.  

Trail updates:  When I am away from the trail, the only advantage I have for predicting trail conditions is experience.  Everyone has the same access to the current and past weather information.  Often times I log on to the site a lunch and see posts asking if the trails will be rideable tonight.  With out actually being at the trail, I have to add on some extra time to avoid the risk of sending a bunch of riders to a trail that isn't ready yet.  I really can't post any thing definative until I see the trail.  Until someone donates enough money to hire full time staff at each trail, the trail updates on the forum are going to be delayed.  No one has time to post on the site every time it rains, that the trails are muddy and then post exactly the moment they are ready to go.  So, while the site will help and we will post info as quick as possible, but lack of posts on trail conditions after rain, typically mean that no one has confirmed the trail is ready to go, and not that it isn't closed.

What is too muddy is a tough one.  One problem is that between too muddy and prenty dry is a grey area.  There are many times I look at the trail and it isn't dry enough that I would ride or post on the site the trail is dry but its not quite bad enough shoe away people trying to ride.

The two best ways to tell if the trail is too wet are

The best thing IndyKJH, is that you are concerned and trying to protect the trail.  Even I sometimes make the mistake of thinking the trail will be dry and getting into a lap when its wetter than it should be ridden.  When this happens, just use it as motivation to come out and help out with the trail some time.

I will try to follow up on some guidelines for predicting trail conditions.
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on May 20, 2010, 01:20:13 PM
so here's the deal. 

Only Indy Parks has the authority to open or close the park (open or close the main gate).  We can't just open or close it when it rains.  There are conditions that allow us to close the gate and then notify them, but only in special conditions, like flooding.

Once the Park is closed it can not reopen until it has been fulling inspected and repaired.  This means several days dry enough to get in and inspect the trail and fix any issues.  So once the gate is close, there will be time the trail is dry enough to ride but not open. 

I am doubtful that having a gate at the trail entrance will be of help.  We are volunteers who can not run out the instant it starts raining.  If it starts raining and no one can get to the gate to open or close it, then riders will come off the trail covered in mud and say "but the gate was open".  Like wise if volunteers don't get out to reopen the trail at the exact time it drys out, riders will get upset and ride around the gate.  then we will need to build a fence next to the gate to keep people from riding around it.

The bottom line is that it is the responsibility of the riders to avoid the trail when it is muddy.  HMBA tries to help by providing info on the forum, but in the end it is up to riders to be responsible.  There are many new riders who do not take the time to read the many signs or forum posts to understand this responsibility, so we all need to help new riders learn to respect the trail.  Use positive peer pressure to get the message across.

The bottom line is that those who build and maintain the trails are currently just as in need of a ride as those who don't.  And adding several day of trail work to our work load by riding on muddy trails is going to make them happy.  So don't blame HMBA if you get caught messing up the trails by some unhappy trail builders.

All that said, the Town Run will likely close tonight due to potential flooding.

Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on November 09, 2010, 08:35:38 AM
I will need everyone's help on the motor cycle.  I am heading to to O'Bannon Woods this weekend for trail building so I will not be able to investigate.

Town Run is our trail and we all need to look out for it.  If you see or hear a motor cycle, take action.  Stop your lap and cut through the park to head off the rider.  Rally a few other riders if you need back up.  block the trail in front of the the rider and tell them

1) motorized bikes are not allowed
2) that if they don't not leave immediately the police will be called.

If you have a camera, get a picture.

Also, play detective.  Where is he coming into the park?  Crystal Lake? Quarry?, Main Parking Lot?  Repeat offenders typically live close.  The easiest way to bust them is to fine out where they live.

Paul
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave Tozer on January 22, 2011, 11:53:09 PM
Rode two laps yesterday.  Frozen ground + snow + plenty of ice patches.  The roots can be wicked-slick.

Take a look...

  http://vimeo.com/19081740 (http://vimeo.com/19081740)  
 
 :)

 
 
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave Tozer on January 23, 2011, 04:36:42 PM
Studded tyres should be used! I tired lower than usual psi and still didn't help but did get in 2 laps in. Kenda Klondikes might be ordered here shortly.

Funny you should mention that...

    My home made studded mountain bike tires (http://vimeo.com/19099647)
 
Town Run tested, just yesterday!   ;D
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Steve King on March 02, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
Pictures (taken 3/2/11) from the March 2011 Flood.   :'(

(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i389/22steve57903/P3020101.jpg)
(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i389/22steve57903/P3020100.jpg)
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Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave Tozer on March 19, 2011, 09:16:47 PM
Not really stunning footage, but if you want to see what the stream between the lake and the river looked like Thursday...

    http://vimeo.com/21245072 (http://vimeo.com/21245072)

That, and J-Hizzel lumberjacking a tree with a rhino.   ;)
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on April 20, 2011, 01:23:22 PM
Water is flowing in.

(http://indytrekracer.smugmug.com/Sports/TRTP-South-Loop-2011/DSC04770/1259231432_V3mpjNH-L.jpg)

Conveniently, I had a meeting with Indy Greenways about the erosion today.  So they got to see the flooding in action.  They are on the case of filling in the erosion channel.
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Steve King on April 21, 2011, 04:28:41 PM
4/21/11 - 3:00 p.m. - Current conditions "VERY WET"

(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i389/22steve57903/P4210109.jpg)
(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i389/22steve57903/P4210107.jpg)
(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i389/22steve57903/P4210110.jpg)
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave Tozer on May 01, 2011, 09:01:24 PM
Not the most exciting 4 minutes and 11 seconds, but if you want to see why it will be while before the trail is open...

    http://vimeo.com/23130652 (http://vimeo.com/23130652)
 
Just because the river is below 9' doesn't mean there isn't trail under water.   :'(
 
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on May 29, 2011, 08:56:14 PM
Town Run will remain closed through Tuesday.  Repairs last week were damaged by riders on the closed trail.  Now those spots are holding water rather than drying.


(http://indytrekracer.smugmug.com/Sports/TRTP-South-Loop-2011/i-P9xMqDD/0/L/IMAG0056-L.jpg)
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave Tozer on May 31, 2011, 10:28:08 PM
Fun to be a part of getting the trail back in shape.  If you couldn't make it out, take a look at the fun you missed...

   http://vimeo.com/davetozer/town-run-trail-work-5-31-11 (http://vimeo.com/davetozer/town-run-trail-work-5-31-11)

See you next Tuesday!   :)
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: echiv91 on October 08, 2011, 04:26:14 PM
As I was riding early this afternoon I was stopped briefly at the top of the hill right after coming back from under the bridge. Someone in their early to late 40's came riding in from the crystal lake subdivision on a red Honda three wheeler. I flagged him down and attempted to explain to him that the park was for mountain biking and that ATV's were not permitted. He tried to tell me something about the 465 bridge being public land and that since he lived in the neighboring subdivision he could ride there.  He also said that he wasn't riding on the trail, but only in the woods by it so he wasn't causing any damage.  I eventually gave up and let him go as he didn't seem to care that much that some 17 year old was telling him that he wasn't supposed to be there. I am correct that ATV's shouldn't be there no matter what though, right?
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on October 10, 2011, 07:40:19 PM
The land south of 465 is owned by the Central Indiana Land Trust and is an Indy Park through a recreational easement.  Neither Indy Parks or CILTI allow motorized recreation.  I stopped by tonight and didn't see any signs of significant 3 wheeler activity. 

Please feel free to stop any motorized traffic.  There are cases of legit use.  Indy Parks, HMBA, Cilti, or the sign companies may at times take vehicles back there for work.  In now case should you see anyone tearing it up over there.

Those who are legit have should have no issue with you stopping and asking them who they are.

I am suprized that a working 3 wheelers still exist.  No one with legit reasons for being there would be on a 3 wheeler.

Typically anyone trying to ride over there gets tired of getting stopped and doesn't come back.  If they are riding aggressively, they are putting park users at risk, and you should call 911.  If you post on the forum, PM, or email me while it is happening, I have contacts at CILTI, Indy Parks, and the Crystal Lake subdivision and find someone to go out and deal with them.

Thanks for trying to talk to them and letting us know to be on the look out.

Paul
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: jasonhilt on November 13, 2011, 04:14:13 PM
Did some work today....Rebuilt one jump, added some berm to the corner on the new section at the big tree and added in a new jump/drop.  It's between the levee drop and the wood framed jump.  Pics below.  A little hard to see in the pics, but it's about 2 feet tall.

(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/redmancsxt/IMG_0071.jpg)

(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/redmancsxt/IMG_0072.jpg)

(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/redmancsxt/IMG_0073.jpg)
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on February 03, 2013, 02:17:23 PM
It is very important that everyone respects the trail closed sign.  Even if the gate is open or the conditions light is blue, "trail closed", means that the trail is closed to all trail users. 

If Hmba members know the trail is closed, and see the gate open, please email me.  We are currently having trouble with  the gate being opened while the trails ate closed.

When I find vehicles in the parking lot , I have to wait for them to come out before locking the gate.  I will start contacting park rangers to give tickets.  I also know all the places people like to park and sneak in when the gate is closes.  I will definitely calling the rangers to ticket anf tow these vehicles.

As a result of the increased effort to deter use when the park is closed, Hmba trail workers need to coordinate with me prior to going out for trail work.
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave Tozer on September 30, 2013, 07:57:15 AM
Without an eyewitness all we can say is "red" means don't ride.  The humidity is 100% and the wind is practically nonexistent. That means no moisture will be evaporating. I'd be surprised if it were OK to ride today.

There are several folks that ride during the day, so we may here from them. If you go out to scope things out, remember that if you are leaving tracks on the trail or you see standing water anywhere, stop riding and report back that the trail isn't ready.

I was thinking about walking Town Run with a trail tool after work and see if anything is holding water. But then again, I have one car that needs a power steering pump transplant and another that is telling me it wants an oil and filter change.  I am leaning towards car maintenance since tomorrow is likely a better day to see if things are drying out.

Did the rain hurt the trail today? Monday is my only riding day right now.
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Zinjanthropus on October 05, 2013, 07:21:52 AM
As silly as it sounds, and based on observing other trails firsthand, has there been any thought or maybe even attempts in the past to clear dry leaves from the trail with a blower? I don't know the true ecological impact, and obviously it may be a short-lived win against the blanket of danger-concealing leaves, but it would be interesting to see how long it would last.

Don't get me wrong, I welcome the challenge of remembering where each pointy flat-magnet broken root is hiding beneath them, and wet and slick is part of the "fun" of the sport, but for the sake of new riders, runners, even hikers and their safety it has merit if only short-lived. Weighing the time vs. return I'd say it falls in the L column but looking to know if it was done previously and how badly the battle may have gone.


~Yet another Dave
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on October 05, 2013, 10:14:32 AM
Leaf blowing is a long debated topic, there is no clear answer and the best tactic is likey different for each trail.

There are 2 issues to cover.  One is user experience and the other is trail maintenance. 

User experience is a mixed bag. So users like to see the changes to the the trail as the seasons change.  Others don't like the added challenge of leaves on the trail. 

The other thing to consider is the impact of leaves on winter trail riding.  Having leaves covering the trail insullates the ground and can delay onset of freeze/thaw conditions early in the winter. In late winter and early spring the leaves can slow down the thaw drying of the trails, and if they start to decompose, can mix into the dirt and create a thin slick layer of dirt.

I doubt that we could keep up with blowing the leaves off the trails this time of the year.  And the Fall is a great time of the year to build trails.  I would rather put our resources on building new trails that blowing leaves.  Once the leaves are down, some trails do get leaf blown.  Others don't.  It is up to the local trail leaders.

At Town Run, we typically get so many riders on the trail that the leaves get knocked off of the trail or packed down, such that they are not an issue.  So, I do not see us blowing the leaves off of the trail.

If you are interested in blowing leaves on a trail, please contact the Trail Stewards first.  Some will welcome the effort, and others would be quite pissed off if you blow the leaves off of their trail.



Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: jasonhilt on December 29, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
Checked out the north half - flood plain part - of the trail today.  Pretty messed up with the river deposit mud and debris piles.  Going to be awhile before its opened.
On the way back I walked the levee side.  It also flooded.  Here's two pics of the trail that were under ice.

(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/redmancsxt/IMG_0516.jpg) (http://s243.photobucket.com/user/redmancsxt/media/IMG_0516.jpg.html)

(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/redmancsxt/IMG_0515.jpg) (http://s243.photobucket.com/user/redmancsxt/media/IMG_0515.jpg.html)
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Steve King on June 16, 2014, 06:00:06 PM
Dave Tozer, I'm relatively new to mountain biking and the scene around here but would love to get involved in working on trails. How do I find out about it?

Welcome!!!  Work days are posted all over the Forum, on our Calendar, and on Facebook. 

For Fort Harrison.  Usually we work on Wednesday's.  But looks like this week also Tuesday.
http://www.hmba.org/smf/index.php?topic=12469.15
http://www.hmba.org/smf/index.php?topic=11325.60

Some Camping and Trail work weekends coming up at Brown County.
http://www.hmba.org/smf/index.php?topic=12740.0

Some regular Thursday work days at Southwestway.
http://www.hmba.org/smf/index.php?topic=12770.0
http://www.hmba.org/smf/index.php?topic=12306.45

Work sessions at Rangeline.
http://www.hmba.org/smf/index.php?topic=1803.180

On the right side of the Home Page, below the "Trail Status,"  see the link "Join our Trail Building Mailing List."
http://www.hmba.org/wp/

Also on the Home Page see the "Volunteer with Us" link.
http://www.hmba.org/wp/volunteer-with-us/

Join our Facebook page.  Events are also scheduled via Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hoosier-Mountain-Bike-Association/384333460060?fref=nf

Also on Facebook -

The Town Run Trail
https://www.facebook.com/groups/60024611414/

Brown County Mountain Biking
https://www.facebook.com/groups/BCSPMTB/

Southwestway Trail Park
https://www.facebook.com/groups/204530125309/




Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on September 24, 2014, 09:07:36 PM
Thanks Mike, Dave, and Eric,


Its not to often we get a mud hole like the ones we dealt with in the early days of Town Run. 


Here is what we started with last week.


(http://indytrekracer.smugmug.com/Sports/Town-Run-2014/i-tR8FZwz/0/L/DSC06130-L.jpg)


This is a two work session mud hole.  On the first work session we put some rocks in place to allow rides to cross the muddy area and drained the water and muck.


Tonight things were dried up enough to do the  finish work.


(http://indytrekracer.smugmug.com/Sports/Town-Run-2014/i-Q3rQgdz/0/L/DSC06141-L.jpg)


(http://indytrekracer.smugmug.com/Sports/Town-Run-2014/i-gNW5nZ7/0/L/DSC06142-L.jpg)
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: pmanderson on January 14, 2015, 03:14:43 PM
Today at noon, approx 14F the trail was very icy and rutty... especially on the last 3rd in the woods. For me, I took it extremely slow. However it was still fun.



(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7518/15658757214_eaae5273c9_b.jpg)
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: ERJ-Drvr on April 12, 2015, 08:05:57 PM
Checked out TRTP today...everything North of "Talking Tree" is green.  But the Crystal Lake crossing is flooded and a section of the South Bound trail just before the I465 underpass has collapsed into the river!  Paul would you consider opening the trail North of "Talking Tree"?
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/12/4a48454c8f72c1380bfb25d3fa94ee72.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/12/9d5a7154a7b258a65c7c447c50d99556.jpg)
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave Tozer on February 22, 2016, 09:29:13 PM
Downed tree. Not far past the "Smile" sign.  ;D

(http://davetozer.com/biking/IMG8306FebruaryTrailRideAtTownRunCropped720.jpg)
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave Tozer on August 19, 2016, 02:33:11 PM
Here are shots of the tree that covers the trail in two places

(http://davetozer.com/TownRunTrail/Town%20Run%20tree%20down%201%202016%2008%2018.jpg)

(http://davetozer.com/TownRunTrail/Town%20Run%20tree%20down%202%202016%2008%2018.jpg)
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: jasonhilt on August 19, 2016, 06:21:17 PM
I was wondering when the rest of that tree was going to come down when i cut it the first time.
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: coolhandluke on December 14, 2016, 07:50:11 PM
Any idea if there will be any night riding during the snowy days this season? We did it a few years ago and it was great!


Obviously the colder night temps help keep the trail hard packed. Just wondering.
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Willyjaybob on December 30, 2016, 11:48:20 AM
Any idea if there will be any night riding during the snowy days this season? We did it a few years ago and it was great!


Obviously the colder night temps help keep the trail hard packed. Just wondering.

I would be curious about this myself...
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: ztbishop on January 07, 2017, 01:43:21 PM
On a day as cold as this (10f) would a clear sunlight still be expected to thaw the trails?  I know it's a matter of checking it out...Just looking for a general idea before taking the wheels & post off, stuffing the bike in my car to avoid road salt, and bundling up in double neoprene.  🤔
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave Tozer on January 07, 2017, 01:54:32 PM
I doubt you will have too much trouble with melting snow.
 
There is a bit of a discussion on the Town Run Facebag page where JJ Truax commented on the conditions. JJ said there is some slick spots but not too bad.


Personally I find that frozen ruts caused by people that rode when the trails were wet made the worst hazard.


I predict the ride will be cold, snot filled, fun and worth the trip. If not, I'll refund you money. :D
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on January 07, 2017, 07:25:24 PM
There is just enough snow to reflect the sun light.  With a high of 15deg, the trails were frozen all day.  Get out tomorrow, as the thaw is coming back this week.
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on January 13, 2017, 09:12:25 AM
This weekend's weather presents two options. 

1) We get the ice storm as predicted = Bad

2) We get rain instead which would likely cause the trails to flood = Bad

So the gate at town run is closed and we will wait and see what this weekend's weather brings.
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave Tozer on January 13, 2017, 09:39:20 AM
You forgot fire and brimstone.  :o
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on January 21, 2017, 01:38:17 PM
No fire or brimstone, but the trail is flooded.  Expect the trail to be closed for the near future.
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: K_W on January 28, 2017, 05:34:35 PM
Town Run survived the wet weather and flood nicely, however it is still not ready for use and will remain closed.

There is still water at the spillway and dampness under the leaves. We're going to continue to check the condition of the trail this coming week.

A reminder, do not access the trail from any other spot when the main gate is closed.
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: goatbike on February 14, 2017, 09:01:40 AM
      Guys,
 
I attempted to add a link to the top of the forums to point to the new trail status page. The forums are picky about additional code so I will post to all the trail groups instead and focus on improving the Trails Overview page until I find a good method of modifying the forums template.
 
In the meantime the HMBA trail status information is now here. http://www.hmba.org/trails-overview/
 
Thank you for you patients.
 
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on May 04, 2017, 02:12:38 PM
Historic Crests
 (1) 22.40 ft on 03/26/1913
 (2) 19.19 ft on 01/01/1991
 (3) 18.65 ft on 04/23/1964
 (4) 18.56 ft on 01/14/2005
 (5) 18.19 ft on 05/19/1943
 (6) 18.04 ft on 06/30/1957
 (7) 17.96 ft on 06/15/1958
 (8) 17.88 ft on 04/20/2013
 (9) 17.78 ft on 07/11/2003
 (10) 17.24 ft on 02/25/1985

All you youngsters getting worked up over 16' . Back when I was a kid in 1913, that was a real flood!
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on March 19, 2018, 12:14:24 PM
Town Run is open!  Get out before it rains.
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: fortvillian on April 26, 2018, 07:52:05 PM
Green green green! Town Run is beautiful! The woods are starting to come alive!
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: fortvillian on April 03, 2019, 12:09:55 PM
Brought my bike to work today. Anyone know if there is a chance of riding this afternoon?
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: jasonhilt on April 03, 2019, 12:54:03 PM
Facebook page shows it open only to Talking Tree.
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: fortvillian on April 03, 2019, 04:30:12 PM
Thanks Jason. Not a Facebook guy so this is where I get my info. Appreciate it!
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: djkouza on April 14, 2019, 07:48:27 PM
Thanks Jason. Not a Facebook guy so this is where I get my info. Appreciate it!
Yeah I'm always running between FB, HMBA and MTB Project trying to figure out what the most recent update on a trail is.
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: Steve King on June 24, 2019, 07:40:09 PM
Trails are still closed. Trail work session tomorrow (June 25,2019) evening. Meet in main parking lot between 5:30PM and 6:00PM. When the trail reopens depends on how many volunteers come out tomorrow. We need to inspect and clear the trail from flood damage and work on some mud holes. Plenty of trimming to do as well.
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: fortvillian on May 04, 2020, 08:27:33 AM
Okay, so where are the updated trail statuses, in particular, the ones that are open during Covid.  It seems this website is not being used, at least for the Town Run part. Id like to look up whether its open or no but...  :-\
Title: Re: TRTP Trail Conditions
Post by: jasonhilt on May 04, 2020, 09:03:31 AM
Pretty much everything has moved to Facebook groups.
Town Run - https://www.facebook.com/groups/60024611414/
Fort Ben - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1009766722495292/
Brown County - https://www.facebook.com/browncountymountainbiking/

As far as open trails.  All State Parks are closed to MTB.  National Forests are open - Nebo Ridge.  Crooked Creek is in Yellow Wood State Forest so it's closed.
Town Run and Rangeline Trail in Anderson are open.  SWW might still be closed, not sure though.