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Other Great Indiana MTB Trails => Fantastic 4 => Topic started by: gnawbonelefty on May 02, 2006, 02:38:54 PM

Title: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on May 02, 2006, 02:38:54 PM
I rode at Valley Branch last night,  I have to say it was alot of fun,  there was no sign of any recent mountain bike activity.  I had the place to myself, rode 2hours, cleaned garys gulley including a 20" high downed tree.
Sure,  there were a few motorcycle ruts,  but they added to the charm and challenge and were not a distraction.  It's amazing how much different the feel is to BCSP (steep hills) rough trails, off camber.  I really appreciated having full suspension and gears, which are two things I've been down on lately.

So In all the place is in pretty good shape,  go,  you'll enjoy it.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: cmac on July 26, 2006, 11:18:45 AM
As noted, Nebo from the north to the south trail head is in pretty good shape since the trail work was done a few weeks back .  For those who aren't aware, you can easily access the Hickory Ridge system by heading west at the south end of Nebo on the paved road(1000 N).  Follow that until you come to a bridge on your left where the road splits (Maumee bridge over Littel Salt Creek).  Cross the bridge and then turn right immediately on the gravel road.  Follow this about a mile staying to the left while looking for a trail marker sign on the left hand side. The trail marker has a a map.  This is "20" in the Hickory Ridge system and T's into 18.  Take a right on 18 until you to come to a gravel road.  Ride gravel for a few miles and turn right on 19 which is a nice couple of miles of trail. Havwe to keep your eyes peeled for this, but it is marked. When you hit the gravel again, go to your left till you hit the bottom of the hill and turn right.  Follow till it T's at the cemetery and turn right.  You will end up back at the Maumee Bridge.  From there you can go right back to the south trailhead of Nebo or turn left and follow the gravel which will take you to Combs road/creek and will dump you out on Nebo just a little before the final decent to the North Trail head of Nebo. 

I ride this route quite a lot. Typically around 4 hours give or take depending on conditions and effort.  100oz of water and food needed on warm days.  Trails Illustrated has a nice topo map that you can get from USDA stations and I think that some of the bike shops have them.  Titled "Hoosier National Forest - Selected Trails".

I mention this because it's a good distance for many riders and the trails on the north end of the Hickory Ridge have very little horse traffic, and... the trail just needs more tires on it. 


Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: indytriple on September 18, 2006, 03:53:05 AM
Mortimer (Ron) and I rode Hickory last night.  We kicked it old school and did a counter-clockwise "loop" around the Hickory trail system.  We parked at east end of Nathan Avery (19).  Rolled west on 19 and then down the road to 18.  West on 18 to 4.  Took 4 to 10 and then past Hickory Grove Church.  10 to 11.  11 to 3.  3 across the pipeline to 13 crazy climb.  Lightning and thunder.  13 to road to 15.  15 past Callahan Cemetery to 16/17 loop counterclockwise (more lightning and thunder).  14 climb out to road.  Road to 20.  20 downhill to road.  Gravel back to car through the rain.

Trails were in pretty good shape.  There were the usual mud holes and horse poop here and there, but overall, the trails were about as good as these trails ever get.  We saw a few other tire tracks here and there.

We didn't time it.  We don't know how long it was.  There were not heart rate monitors, GPS units, or computers utilized in this venture.  It was hard.  It was long.  My legs hurt.  Ron's legs hurt.  There were no racers pre-riding the course.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Allen Edwards on September 02, 2008, 08:04:20 PM
I'd be happy to show you around Nebo, Hickory Ridge, or wherever.  I'm off weekends and Tuesdays and can be off on Friday afternoons with a few days notice.  The trail permit is a daily fee; a tag you hang on your bike to show that you've paid.  They're $5 daily or $35 for an annual pass.  Here's a link to all the info, including where to pick one up.  Beware that the list may not have been updated recently.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/hoosier/recreation/trpermits.htm

Let me know if my schedule works for you.  I'm reasonably fit but not a racer-type either.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Bigdaddy on July 18, 2009, 01:23:51 AM
Pilot, try this and feel free to add to it, but remember you still gotta get back on Nebo. Take  road 1050(end of Nebo) to the right ,go to Maumee Bridge and go left over bridge. Take a right on gravel road just on other side of bridge. Follow for 1/2 mile or so on left and pick up trail#20 near a pine forest. Up 20 to 18 intersection , go right to top of 18. Intersect road at top and continue out on 18 to 4 or 10 or take road to right and pick up 19 to complete a loop back to road to backtrack to Nebo. There are maps at the intersections so you can roll whatever. Nebo to 20/18/19 and back is 30 or so. The options are endless, you just gotta put up with the ponies and frigged up trails in Hickory.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on July 19, 2009, 03:30:46 PM
I road 18, 19, 20, and Nebo yesterday (7/19/09).  18/19/20 were in good shape, only a few soft spots.  I needed a pass and stopped to get one at Monk's - given that it is a horse camp I thought I might run into a little resistance, but he was very friendly, gave me some tips/suggestions re: parking, etc.  I know BCSP is great, and I really liked Versailles, but I don't think Nebo can be beat if you just want a good hard ride to clear your mind.

Nebo is the most slot car track like trail around. Big chain ring and high speed the whole way.  Hickory? We  first attempted to climb the right side of 3 but so many trees were down we abandon that, next we attempted the "pro loop" in hickory  but 10 was a mess even the equestrains were complaining about how bad it was reports were 4 was even worse. Still it was a great ride.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: JClasen on July 19, 2009, 05:07:35 PM
Nebo=Great Fun!
Good ride today. On the first climb from the trailhead we all talked about past rides and pointed out the spots where we have crashed on the descent back to the lot.

Also good to see the local folk out on horseback loaded for the apocalypse. The lone rider we saw on Nebo had a holstered shotgun/rifle?, handgun and machete.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: chuckdlou on July 20, 2009, 06:50:50 PM
he sounds like the goat man that lived in a holler near mine when i was in elementary and high school...but goat man only had a mule and not an actual horse...the mumbling and the weaponry sound eerily similar though...if he's like the goat man that getup is just a ruse so he doesn't have to interact socially...nice enough fella in all reality...or he may be about to off somebody so i'd continue to just ride away as soon as possible...good thinking
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Bigdaddy on July 24, 2009, 10:59:26 PM
Stopped in to Coyote Creek to get passes, ole boys out on the porch swattin flies with a red plastic fly swatter(whens the last time you were sportin one of those) and drinkin miller lite in the bottle, says itta rainned a good 4" last night boys. I was like 4? "ever things a wet". I decided based on an earlier trail report that BC was good, so I'd continue on down to Nebo. Little drainage at the bottom, the usual spots on the double track up, but not gooey peanut butter like.Once to the top it was all good. Couple more spots near Berry Ridge were slimey.The last 3 mile or so was it's usual smokin fast up and downs. On over to 20/18/19 and back up Combs. Lots of water in the creeks across the bottom of Combs, still it's always a good little climb up. The downhill back was good and firm with slick rock and roots thrown into the techy factor. Always a good day in the HNF on a weekday, not a sole in sight. It was AC's(transfer from Denver) first ride in HNF and his comments were " its a outback little Colorado out here in the big woods", sweet to hear that in the Flatlands of Indiana. RideOn.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on November 05, 2009, 08:10:08 AM
Valley Branch Trail Report

This coming Sunday is the annual Stoney Lonesome Enduro ride at VBR.  About 50 enduro riders will crunch down many of the leaves and make the route finding there a bit easier.  In all, I will say the south side trails are comparatively easy to find and navigate,  the north side trails are a different story.  Wipe out and Moots are gone for all intents.  the junction of crooked creek and easy out has had some logging, but is followable too.  Gary's Gulley and Beans Ravine still exist too,  but it just isn't the same.

Gnaw Bone Camp Trail Report

Actually everything is in pretty good shape,  Route finding may be a challenge on the trails further out but most all logs and sticks have been cleared from just about every trail,   with the exception of  the long loop of walker -> best -> middle to hoot and hollar,  but I hope to have those cleared by this sunday too.  Don't worry there are still plenty of log hopping opportunities,  just fewer hike-arounds.
There is still a cranky old man who lives off of the raccoon ridge loop  I think his name is bob or rob or something,  avoid him and you'll have a great ride.



Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: mawiv on November 21, 2009, 06:25:29 AM
Todd - last weekend was the opening of hunting season for guns. I donned some blaze orange and went poking around on the gravel (no trails). It looked like a combination between a deranged Phish camping party and Apocalypse Now (plenty of dead dear carcasses hanging from trees). I'm thinking this weekend will be very similar (lots of hunters camping, shooting, whatever else they're doing) and carnage on display. Might be best to let the hunters have the woods for at least one more weekend. I did check trail conditions at spots near the roads and stuff looked pretty soupy (in Hickory Ridge). Nebo appeared very sloppy at the north trailhead, but it most likely was and is a mixed bag of mud and good. Best bet on Nebo is to park at the top (Berry Ridge) and ride the south half (dries the quickest). But again, I'd be wary with so many hunters in the woods right now. I think you're pretty safe on the gravel roads (still recommend some orange - especially if connecting to the north parking lot via Combs Road). Good luck.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on December 03, 2009, 07:46:31 PM
Saturday, Dec 5 - Does anybody have thoughts on the conditions of Nebo and/or Hickory Ridge.  Looks like the majors, BCSP and Buffalo Trace, will be too wet or freeze-thaw issues.  Will the minors be better?

Hickory is always a mud pit unless it's been really dry.  Nebo generally fairs worse than Brown County.  unless you are finished before 10am,  nothing will be good.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Apertome on January 05, 2010, 10:43:45 AM
Rode Nebo this weekend (Sunday) and everything was in great shape except for a little ice at the very bottom and some frozen ruts in places. Trail was fast and grippy. If the cold weather holds, it should be great through next weekend at least.

Be careful if you decide to come back Combs Road, creeks are frozen and slick, I went through the ice on one and got my feet wet. Had cold feet for the last 30 minutes back to the trailhead.

Ride report is here:

http://www.apertome.com/blog/2010/01/04/more-winter-mountain-biking-nebo-ridge/ (http://www.apertome.com/blog/2010/01/04/more-winter-mountain-biking-nebo-ridge/).
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: mrbiggerstaff on February 26, 2010, 02:14:06 PM
How's nebo looking these days?  Gonna be in town for a little retreat next wed - friday and wondered if it would be ridable.  Also, is there a shortcut around the soggy bottom entrance?  Thanks
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gmcttr on February 26, 2010, 02:27:52 PM
My trails on the west side of Columbus are thawed mush this afternoon. We just had about 12 inches of snow melt into them.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on February 26, 2010, 02:50:22 PM
With how mushy the gnawbone trails are now,  and they are the lightest used in the county, and a persistant pattern of freeze thaw forecast,  please do not plan an off road excursion, unless it's starts between 3:00am and 5:00am

..r
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: mrbiggerstaff on February 27, 2010, 12:16:28 PM
Is there a good backroads route beginning and ending at the nebo trailhead by Story to do instead?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Bigdaddy on February 27, 2010, 01:35:08 PM
Gravel Grovel route or variations of it can be done from there. Combs road is a mudfest, so would recommend going over to Maumee to start(southern Nebo trailhead). The gravel roads are most likely a soupy mess as the heavy freeze thaw and snow/ rain effects those old roads just like the singletrack.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on February 27, 2010, 05:20:22 PM
Gravel Grovel route or variations of it can be done from there. Combs road is a mudfest, so would recommend going over to Maumee to start(southern Nebo trailhead). The gravel roads are most likely a soupy mess as the heavy freeze thaw and snow/ rain effects those old roads just like the singletrack.

Or from Story take 135 south to mt nebo road,  on nebo at the top of the hill take berry ridge rd to the right.
berry ridge will take you by the mid section of the nebo trail all the way to 1000n in Houston,jackson county,  2 miles east of the southern nebo trailhead.  a right on 1000n will take you to the maumee bridge and into the hickory roads.  Or go through houston and take the first right out of town for a killer climb.

Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: chuckdlou on February 28, 2010, 10:23:59 AM
parked at crooked creek boat ramp yesterday and looped over to blue creek road and came back through elkinsville...the actual gravel road parts of blue creek and elkinsville road weren't bad, though a fender is helpful...the old "road" from the boat ramp to the old bridge in elkinsville was an interesting combo of snow, ice, mud and water and by no means easy, yet strangely fun...that's cabin fever for you...i would agree with the assessment of combs road, but the other gravel roads in the HNF should be good...i like parking at the lookout tower, heading west on tower ridge road, then heading south in to the deam wilderness...take a national geographic map with you and you're golden...enjoy
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fullenchilada on March 02, 2010, 03:26:53 PM
Gravel Grovel route or variations of it can be done from there. Combs road is a mudfest, so would recommend going over to Maumee to start(southern Nebo trailhead). The gravel roads are most likely a soupy mess as the heavy freeze thaw and snow/ rain effects those old roads just like the singletrack.

Or from Story take 135 south to mt nebo road,  on nebo at the top of the hill take berry ridge rd to the right.
berry ridge will take you by the mid section of the nebo trail all the way to 1000n in Houston,jackson county,  2 miles east of the southern nebo trailhead.  a right on 1000n will take you to the maumee bridge and into the hickory roads.  Or go through houston and take the first right out of town for a killer climb.



Agreed.
The Berry ridge parking and riding out to Maumee and back is the standard course of action for early spring riding in HNF. Its a good ride and an old favorite.
I would say its still a little too soft at this point, but it wont be too long before ill be doing that myself.
ride on ;D
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Shark on March 06, 2010, 07:53:57 PM
Rode nebo today, it was surprisingly in very good condition.  Only thing we didn't ride was the "climb" from the parking lot as we parked at the top.
There were a couple small mud holes but those spots don't get much better even in the summer.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fullenchilada on March 07, 2010, 04:43:05 PM
Im there...soon i hope
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: indywriter on March 09, 2010, 09:55:08 PM
Assuming it doesn't rain too much over the next few days, do you think Nebo will be rideable Saturday?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fullenchilada on March 09, 2010, 10:11:35 PM
Not from the bottom , thats for sure, whether or not you could park at Berry ridge and ride out from there is still questionable.

i would say probably not
 gnawbonelefty has other posts up in other threads  stating more time is needed. like another week or 10 days from now depending on the level of precip.

maybe we will get lucky and he will speak concerning Nebo specifically

saturdays are good for maintenance this time of year, clearing down trees is always a good saturday

however thats unofficial and not endorsed by HMBA on Nebo or HNF
 
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on March 10, 2010, 08:33:36 AM
Not from the bottom , thats for sure, whether or not you could park at Berry ridge and ride out from there is still questionable.

i would say probably not
 gnawbonelefty has other posts up in other threads  stating more time is needed. like another week or 10 days from now depending on the level of precip.

maybe we will get lucky and he will speak concerning Nebo specifically

saturdays are good for maintenance this time of year, clearing down trees is always a good saturday

however thats unofficial and not endorsed by HMBA on Nebo or HNF
 

Honestly,  it's too hard to predict,  Sunday's rain did much to thaw the trail and the 60+ degree and litle precip,  has gone a long way toward drying.  I you could get out the afternoon before the rains,  you'd have a sweet ride,  except for the double track section I'm guessing.   If we get ran and go back to freeze thaw,  all bets are off.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: indywriter on March 10, 2010, 09:56:11 AM
Thanks. I'm hopeful the big rain is going to hold off. I'll check in Saturday (or Sunday) morning before heading down.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Bigdaddy on March 10, 2010, 03:50:38 PM
Thanks to Shark and TMack's trail report,I hit up Nebo Mon and Tues. Berry Ridge area and of course the singletrack/double up are quagmires. Fixed a couple drains and picked up limbs and tree removal for trail maint.. Parked at Berry Ridge one day and southern end the other. Rode on over to Hickory , but only hit up 19(ok) and Combs Road(pretty muddy).Most of the trail has heavy leaf cover so the trails were pretty firm,I'd give it a 6.5-7. Still slow rollin, but rideable.I wish they could monitor the quads and keep the hoofs off till later this spring. It was raining when I left,don't know what the accums were, but it's pretty sweet out now.After it does rain, I'd guess 2-3 days of sunshine and the top will be rideable.Please park at southern end or Berry Ridge and don't even try the Elkinsville parking lot for 2-4 weeks.Ride On
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fullenchilada on March 10, 2010, 06:23:36 PM
Thanks for update Bigdaddy !
missin ya. hope to see ya soon
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: mhhigain on March 10, 2010, 09:35:35 PM
Thanks for update Bigdaddy !
missin ya. hope to see ya soon

Ah!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fullenchilada on March 20, 2010, 08:31:52 AM
We used to use accuweather.com to check precip levels from days prior and get accurate forecasts w/ detailed info.

I noticed you cant get precip levels anymore, unless you pay them 79.00 a year and subscribe.

anybody know where to get precip levels of days prior , w/ out paying for it ?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Bigdaddy on March 20, 2010, 12:16:26 PM
Still can,just gotta look a little harder.
http://www.accuweather.com/us/in/nashville/47448/forecast-month.asp?view=table
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gmcttr on March 20, 2010, 03:29:11 PM
http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/day1-5.shtml (http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/day1-5.shtml)

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=IND&product=NTP&overlay=11101111&loop=yes (http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=IND&product=NTP&overlay=11101111&loop=yes)
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fullenchilada on March 20, 2010, 08:06:49 PM
sweet.
 thanks!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Bigdaddy on April 17, 2010, 10:32:09 PM
Double track up is drying out,but still slow and muddy.Few slow spots near Berry Ridge,other than that it rode pretty fast. Not near the fast track that BCSP is currently, just good ole out in the big woods riding. Not another rider on the trail the whole day. Keep on riding at BCSP and leave the HNF to us.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fullenchilada on April 18, 2010, 10:11:07 AM
was walking cleaning sticks from the trail( not riding),  out on browning mountain yesterday. there was a group of at least 40 people camping w/ hammocks out near the rocks. It was crazy.
then as i was going through what looked like a tent city here comes about 30 more people hiking up from the right side.
I was traumatized.....like WTH!

Its the second time i have seen a group of people w/ hammocks east of combs road in the hnf.

I asked them where they came from and they told me they organized from a group online called hammockforums.net
I am going to log on and advise them that it would be better if they didnt string hammocks accross the trial so people dont have to duck under and go through their setups just to get through. Not cool.

funny thing was when i told them it looked like "tent city" they said  Very Seriously , " no man these are hammocks" " not tents"...then they said...

This is a " Hang", which evidently means a group of people w/ their hammock set ups camping in the woods.   lol :-\


bottom line watch out for more people groups and user in the woods as we move into the future.




note: browning mountain area is off limits to bikes according to DNR guidlines
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Bigdaddy on April 18, 2010, 10:46:59 AM
Most cars I've ever seen in Nebo parking lot, probably 30. I thought maybe an adventure race was going on. Nope, it was the"hangers". Must have camped off Shelf on Friday and moved to Browning for Sat night.Other than those peeps only ran into a couple shroom hunters. Not a one on a bike.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: 29erpilot on April 18, 2010, 10:55:31 AM
Hmm,Hangers.These guys sound dangerous. Wern't they in the movie Warriors?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fullenchilada on April 18, 2010, 03:20:05 PM
I saw the recon group of "hangers" camping off shelf at the bottom two weeks ago.......

btw there are no shrooms or very few of them due to lack of rain.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Bigdaddy on April 18, 2010, 10:29:56 PM
Notta, I scored 10 yellows on Schooner in BCSP today, just off the trail.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on May 10, 2010, 09:34:04 AM
I hiked a fair bit of gnawbone on sunday.  the trails are dry,  but covered in small debris.  There was very little sign of use.

Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: MikeHufhand on June 07, 2010, 11:10:44 PM
Did a big ride in HNF this past weekend.   Nebo was fun.  Doubletrack was sloppy though.  A new tree was down about mid way. 

My old friend Hickory was great in spots...not so great in others.  Amazing what bad trail design and equestrian use in wet weather can add up to! Trail 16 and 17 had some long stretches of She itty conditions!  Despite that though, I had a great time and put in 50.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: ELduder on July 28, 2010, 04:48:58 PM
any reports on Nebo? Me and the wife are planning on riding BC Thur then Nebo Friday camping off berry ridge.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: mawiv on July 28, 2010, 05:09:16 PM
Last weekend Nebo was in great shape - a couple of trees down - massive amounts of spider webs. Fewer webs down in Hickory due to more horse traffic, but the trade-off is (wait for it) - horse traffic (and the resulting mud bogs, although most had at least one somewhat solid line). Even with a bit of rain, Nebo should be okay.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: ELduder on July 28, 2010, 11:18:02 PM
Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: ELduder on July 30, 2010, 09:46:56 PM
Only rode the back half of Nebo and it was in very good shape. Nothing down on the trail and it was pretty fast.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fullenchilada on August 04, 2010, 08:45:04 PM
there are a couple of large trees down on the nebo out and back
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Shane Pettiner on August 07, 2010, 04:31:08 PM
Nebo is in perfect condition. As noted, there are a couple of trees down. Go ride!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fullenchilada on August 07, 2010, 07:49:03 PM
hittin it tomorrow ( Sun)
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: BLOWNDFIZ on August 07, 2010, 08:57:54 PM
Rode Nebo out and back today.  3 trees to watch out for.  Other than that trail is great!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: crewan on September 03, 2010, 04:19:35 PM
Any word on Nebo conditions?  Planning on riding Saturday.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gmcttr on September 03, 2010, 09:45:03 PM
Any word on Nebo conditions?  Planning on riding Saturday.

Like everything in the area, it has to be dry.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: ELduder on September 04, 2010, 01:01:52 AM
Rode Nebo today and it is in great shape. Nothing down in the way we cut out the one that was there.  We also did a 25 mile loop at Hickory I think we went the BCB loop backwards and nothing major down and 15 is just messed up with fresh gravel and powder conditions so that will be tough come the breakdown.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Allen Edwards on September 05, 2010, 01:01:18 AM
Rode from Crooked Creek up Combs Road and down Nebo to the parking lot today.  I haven't been on Nebo in a long time but that downhill is as fun as I remembered it!  It needs more tires on the ground, though.

If you've never ridden Nebo Ridge, or haven't ridden it in a while, go ride it!  It's a blast.  You won't be disappointed that you avoided the crowds in the park, either.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on September 05, 2010, 04:26:19 PM
Gnawbone camp has most of it's major trails cleared and is in pretty good shape,  fern valley has a couple of logs down, that'll need to be cleared,  if I were not riding alone,  I would have been able to move them.  Tioga has a big pin oak canopy on the trail, and raspberry ridge is hard to follow due to logging and a lack of traffic.  Other than that everything is in pretty good shape.

It'll be a while before I check out westenedge, middle best and hoot and hollar.  when my cardio returns, I'll report back.

Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: crewan on September 05, 2010, 10:04:09 PM
Nebo was in great shape this weekend.  I rode out and back then headed to BCSP.  I'd say Nebo was in better shape since it sees significantly less traffic.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: todd on September 12, 2010, 03:58:33 PM
Just back from a trip to Nebo and 19/20/18, trails are in great shape.  Some limbs down but nothing major, still my favorite trail system (in spite of all of the other great ones!).
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gmcttr on September 19, 2010, 05:13:08 PM
Another beautiful afternoon on Nebo Ridge.

You guessed it....it's still dusty.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fullenchilada on September 20, 2010, 10:24:25 PM
anybody know the rout for the BC Break Down they will have folks do out in Hickory that are doing the larger mileages.

I heard they changed it this year?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: ELduder on September 21, 2010, 01:14:03 PM
Quote
anybody know the rout for the BC Break Down they will have folks do out in Hickory that are doing the larger mileages

I have not but I did a 25 mile loop in Hickory and the only trail that is just flat out terrible is 15 but pretty much anything on that side of Hickory is not great. The better stuff is on the other side (2,4,18,20) those were all fun and in very good shape. I would not be surprised if 15 is bypassed if it can be bypassed.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fullenchilada on September 21, 2010, 09:38:53 PM
Quote: "I would not be surprised if 15 is bypassed if it can be bypassed. "


lets hope so .



Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: AL on September 22, 2010, 01:17:28 AM
I have never had a good relationship with Hickory Ridge.  I have ridden there 2-3 times over the years and never really had a good time.  Why? Mainly because of the horsed out mud bogs and I never knew which trails to ride.  I figured with the dry weather this season i would give the trails another chance and I was glad i did.  There is still a lot of chopped up ground around horse bogs  but there are some smoother lines around them.   Also with the leaves falling the double track has been narrowed and if feels a little  more like a MTB trail.  If you have never been to Hickory now is the time.
I rode CCW 20, 18, 4, 2, half of 3, 21 and it was about 23 miles back to nebo.  Everything was rideable but one hill toward the end of 18 I had to walk because it was just gravel and sand and was pretty miserable.
Trail 2 and the downhill on 3 were prob my favorites.

Nebo was also in very good shape with no downed trees and just a little more horse poo than usual.

Go Ride.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: jim_michaux on September 22, 2010, 07:58:13 PM
Nebo and 20-18-19 were nice this past weekend:

http://vagoscribe.wordpress.com/2010/09/22/685/

I'll add this:  When I came up on the horseback riders, I dismounted from my bike and walked toward them from about 200 feet away.  The horseback riders thanked me for doing so, and commented that I was the first mtber to do so (in their experience).  I don't necessarily believe them, but at the same time, I have been around mtbers that have little respect for horseback riders.  Remember:  respect the horses, first, if nothing else. 

Enjoy autumnal riding!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: lovetrail on September 27, 2010, 12:36:14 AM
looped nebo, 21, 14, 15, 13, 12, 3, 20, and back combs road. nebo was in good shape but hickory was a 3" of dust due to bulldozing or horses. i'd say i would like it to rain but we are too close to the breakdown.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: NVmtbRIDER on September 28, 2010, 07:47:12 AM
Planning a ride at Nebo soon, do I need to worry about having any hunter orange yet?  Also, what do you need for riding out their? I have not been out their before so can I just go out and ride or do I have to check in somewhere?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: tmac on September 28, 2010, 07:56:03 AM
You need to get a trail pass to ride. You can pick one up at the little store on the right side of the road not far from the T intersection.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: NVmtbRIDER on September 28, 2010, 07:58:51 AM
Do you have to have that pass, and will the store be open in the morning?  Probably about 9 am.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: john7722 on September 28, 2010, 09:02:45 AM
Archery Deer season starts Friday Oct 1. During Archery season, Hunters are not required to wear hunters orange. Chances are, U will not see any hunters but they will be there. I will be one of them. For the publics safety,  It would be wise to wear brite colored clothing during hunting seasons if your riding or hiking.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Bentcrank on September 28, 2010, 09:09:20 AM
It is getting that time of year to put away those brown and white short and that fuzzy helmet cover.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: David Kuehnen on September 28, 2010, 09:18:44 AM
Daggum, i was really wanting to try out my new 8 point rack helmet :D
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: NVmtbRIDER on September 28, 2010, 09:37:11 AM
I guess that I will leave my Buck snort bike horn at home but on a serious note, is the store open at 9am for a pass and if isn't what happens if I ride out their without one?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Bentcrank on September 28, 2010, 10:39:45 AM
I guess that I will leave my Buck snort bike horn at home but on a serious note, is the store open at 9am for a pass and if isn't what happens if I ride out their without one?

That all depends on if the ranger stops you.

From what I remember the fine is more then the season pass.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: tmac on September 28, 2010, 01:45:16 PM
If you take a left at the T, there is a little grocery store about two miles on the left that I've gotten passes that early. I'm not sure about the other store.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: tmac on November 27, 2010, 05:59:51 PM
Rode valley branch today with a few guys and the trails were in great shape! Those of you looking for an alternative to bcsp should go ride these trails.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: jimmyschweb on November 29, 2010, 12:28:53 PM
Rode Nebo on Sunday Nov 28.  It's in very good shape.  There's a few muddy spots, the usual ones, the first mile on the Story side.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Fett on January 05, 2011, 07:34:11 AM
6 of us rode Gnaw Bone Camp last night. Conditions were absolutely perfect. Trail was completely frozen although there were signs of freeze/thaw upheaval, so if it gets warm, this report could change in a hurry.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Bigdaddy on January 10, 2011, 11:54:40 AM
Team Synergy in Training Sunday(prepping for Death March) as Richard and I braved the cold for some much needed snowy singletrack. Two weeks in row @ Nebo and the trails have been in great frozen conditions. As noted many times on HMBA, even though the temps never got above 27 for the day, there where spots in the sun that became soft/greasy on our return by 3:00 or so. In addition to some singletrack, we hit up some of the Death March Cemeteries for some gravel road training and climbed to the top of the HNF Firetower for some killer views of the forest. Noticed some other participants tracks in the snow out on Tower Ridge road, most likely some Cyclocross folks guessing from the skinny tracks.
  All in all it was a great day in the woods, looking forward to the Death March in a short 9 weeks away.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on March 18, 2011, 11:36:26 AM
Wednesday Night, I was out walking my dog on the Gnawbone trails.  I ran into Alice, and she says most of the ice storm damage and downed sticks have been cleared on the trails closest to the camp, Wednesday she cleared cliffside and raccoon loops.  trails further out will still need to be cleared, but other than that the trails are in good shape.

.r

Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: bruce180vf on May 09, 2011, 12:41:29 AM
The wife and I rode the south end of Nebo Saturday as an out and back to the junction of Combs road. the trail was in great condition. Wanted to bypass the wet double track ad the first climb. There are Several Big trees that  are blocking the trail. I moved some of the smaller ones that did not add to the trail. Perfect day for a ride.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Rcook on August 07, 2011, 05:39:18 PM
Did the 18 20 19 loop trails were wet but rideable lot of trees down across 18 but looks like they been ther e awhile as there are pretty pronounced trails around them...was my first time there have to do it again and more of the trails......Rob
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Duncan on August 16, 2011, 12:46:18 PM

Anyone ride Nebo Ridge lately.  I will be coming from out of town and was looking at either hitting Nebo Ridge on the 23rd or Brown County.  Thanks
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gottabeoutdoors on August 16, 2011, 01:47:19 PM
I rode it Saturday before last and it was in great shape except for about 2 or 3 trees I had to carry my bike over.   There is a section most of the way into it that looks like a tornado must have gone through, but the trees have all been cut and cleared in that section.   The carnage is amazing and sad, though!

Mick
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Duncan on August 16, 2011, 08:18:31 PM
Thanks for the info.  It's been a long long time since I've ridden Nebo and was wondering if I could get some information about how well this trail is marked.  Last time I rode it was about 10 years ago and I was trying to recall if it's pretty well marked or if there are things I should know about the intersections.  One of the mountain bike books I had was mentioning different trail splits, but the book was written in 2000.  I recall it being fairly straight forward but I used to ride it in a group rather than solo, and that was 10 years ago.  Thanks
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: ELduder on August 19, 2011, 09:59:25 PM
Duncan if you can find the nebo trail head the rest is easy. One turn that is marked and other than that it is just out and back.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: davebik on October 05, 2011, 10:53:40 PM
Nebo was in wonderful shape this evening. It's down to a single spot where we had to lift the bikes over a tree. Even that spot was do-able for someone that can clear the types of trees you find on Schooner in BCSP.
Big Thanks and Kudos to the Folks keeping Nebo so clean!!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Shark on October 06, 2011, 10:08:10 AM
We rode Valley Branch last weekend. Overall a fun rugged ride. Trails a bit overgrown, & some tree's down, but a fun day in the woods.

FYI they have the zip-lines finished up, looks like it'll be fun out there.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Shark on January 08, 2012, 03:34:24 PM
VBR was perfect today.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on January 08, 2012, 06:43:48 PM
Gnawbonecamp was perfect too.  3 rides in  4 days, still no mud on the bike. Will likely ride there again on tuesday.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: LetsRoll on February 04, 2012, 10:06:40 AM
I have never ridden the Fantastic 4 and was told that you can ride them most of the time even if it has rained a little. Can anyone fill me in on that ? I want to get out and ride. Yesterday was the first yellow I've seen on the board in quite some time. Of course I woke to rain this morning and wasn't able to get out yesterday. The trainer just isn't cutting it when it's been in the high 50's.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Shark on February 04, 2012, 10:49:41 AM
Yup, Gnawbone and Valley Branch generally have so much leaf cover and minimal riders they ar good. Nebo drains well, but the start/ lower section can be soupy.There is a way to park off a gravel road and start part way in.  Hickory is good anytime as the horses do much more damage than we ever do. It is fun but be prepared for climbing and hoof prints.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: LetsRoll on February 04, 2012, 03:11:18 PM
Thanks Shark . I was hoping we wouldn't get as much rain as we have but it's been persistent (in Indy anyway). I think we may still give it a shot. ;D
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Catrin on February 17, 2012, 07:02:54 PM
Has anyone ridden Gnawbone recently? Is it at least hikeable? I've never seen that trail so wouldn't mind checking it out this weekend...
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gmcttr on February 18, 2012, 02:06:06 AM
I haven't been out to Gnaw Bone for a few weeks, but I would think any of the leaf covered trails would be good enough for hiking.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on February 18, 2012, 10:32:21 AM
I haven't been out to Gnaw Bone for a few weeks, but I would think any of the leaf covered trails would be good enough for hiking.

I hiked there this morning, and last night, the ridge tops are in great condition.  I've heard you can steal beer out of the fridge of the grumpy old guy who lives at the end of raccoon ridge.

Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Catrin on February 18, 2012, 05:17:46 PM
Awesome, thanks! I will head there tomorrow afternoon! Wound up road riding today rather than hiking.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: m361 on February 22, 2012, 10:07:05 AM
Rode VBR on Monday for the first time. Really enjoyed that property. Trails were mostly covered with leaves. Started to get a few wet spots late in the afternoon, but not bad enought that I would describe as "soupy" or "muddy." Doesn't look like the trails get used much, as we got off the trail once because of the leaves. Had no idea we would have a personal trail guide...Shadow, a black lab that lives on the property, escorted us the entire day (awesome dog!) I think the owner's name is Gary...he's very nice as well. Can't wait to get back this spring and summer for a weekend to enjoy all his resort has to  offer (paint ball, ATV tours, fishing, zip lines and of course more MTB!)
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Danny R on April 06, 2012, 09:08:26 PM
Nebo was very wet and muddy today, especially the northern 3.5 miles.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on April 06, 2012, 09:47:34 PM
Gnawbone camp was nice and dry this evening.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: john7722 on April 15, 2012, 07:56:49 PM
Rode Nebo , Combs road & some of the death march route today.
The West side oF Nebo was surprisingly dry Very very very minor wetness, How ever, the East end was Saturated.
Combs road was very dry compared to east Nebo, the gravel roads were bone dry. Kinda strange how one piece can be saturated and the rest dry.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on April 15, 2012, 08:07:04 PM
Rode Nebo , Combs road & some of the death march route today.
The West side oF Nebo was surprisingly dry Very very very minor wetness, How ever, the East end was Saturated.
Combs road was very dry compared to east Nebo, the gravel roads were bone dry. Kinda strange how one piece can be saturated and the rest dry.

By east do you mean along berry ridge road?  Since the trail runs pretty much north south,  usually the story end of the trail is wetter than the maumee end
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: john7722 on April 16, 2012, 06:22:13 AM
yes you are right! the north side is saturated , while the south side is dry
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on April 16, 2012, 09:23:01 AM
yes you are right! the north side is saturated , while the south side is dry

if conditions are marginal,  I sometimes park on berry ridge, to avoid the first 2.5 miles of old double track.

Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: m361 on May 01, 2012, 09:26:06 PM
If anyone can give an update tomorrow mid morning on the trail conditions of VBR or Nebo, I would really appreciate it. Was really hoping to drive down for an afternoon ride, but mother nature had other plans for the area it seems.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Fett on May 02, 2012, 08:19:04 AM
Brown County got bombed by very heavy rain last night. I cannot imagine any of the Brown County trails would be rideable today. The good news is that it is supposed to be hot and sunny the next 2 days, so conditions should get better in a hurry.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: KKeg14 on June 11, 2012, 10:04:34 PM
I rode Nebo Ridge about a week ago and was really disappointed at the trail conditions. It looked like this trail doesn't get much use, even though it has a lot of potential. Wondering if anybody rides it that much these days?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: grayhound on June 11, 2012, 10:40:16 PM
Happened to ride Nebo(and a good chunk of Hickory) yesterday and havn't had that much fun since the last time I rode out there. Usually get out there a half dozen or so times a season, and love it every time!  No, it doesn't get the same amount of use as the park but that is a big part of it's appeal.  Not groomed, a little overgrown in spots, a little deadwood here and there to keep you on your toes.  Even a little erosion here and there keeps it changing a little over time.  All these things and more make it a unique ride every time.  We ran into two riders finishing in the lot and two horse riders in Hickory all day.  Love the isolation and solitude out there.  Funny thing was, when we got back to the lot two ladies from the ladies clinic at the park pulled in asking about riding Nebo, and we did our best to inform them about the trail.  Hope they had a great ride on an epic trail.  To me there is not a more fun 8 miles of trail (16 out and back) in Indiana. Really too bad more people don't get out there to ride, but maybe that just "preserves"it for those who like to explore!  All this from just a fourth season rider!  Good rides to ya!!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: davebik on June 12, 2012, 09:22:40 AM
Rode Nebo last week and it was glorious! I thought the trail conditions were excellent and it's a clear ride all the way.  not sure what you were expecting KKeg but that's as good as it gets out there and that's super duper in my book. 
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: tmac on June 12, 2012, 11:21:48 AM
Quote
that's super duper in my book

+1
 
I dig that trail. Of course, I'm an old timer who cut his teeth riding that style of trail ::) . It doesn't seem like that long ago when the only options were Hickory, Nebo, VBR, and GC.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: davebik on June 14, 2012, 02:41:06 PM
Rode trail 20 to 18 to 4 last evening and conditions were superb! didn't have to get off the bike once except on some steep climbs  ;)
 
the make-over they did on 4 last year is hardening up and riding ok now.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on July 04, 2012, 10:16:53 AM
Nebo was so very fast  and fun this morning.  the entrance had been mowed, so no brambles on the trail, but lots of nice blackberries to eat on the way out.

Started out it was 70 at 7:30,  when I finished at 9:30, it was already 85 and humid.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Shark on July 07, 2012, 06:51:29 PM
Rode Nebo & small loop of Hickory (19, 18, 20) today.....awesome & saw absolutely nobody! :)

It was flippin' hot though, drank lots of water & we were still feeling it.
Did I mention how fun these trails are?????  ;D ;D 8) 8)
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: htrdoug on July 13, 2012, 08:51:53 AM
Tree top down about 5 minutes or so north of the south parking lot.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: AL on July 23, 2012, 03:03:33 PM
Anyone ridden Valley Branch recently?   Thinking about riding there this weekend as I am a little burned out on other trails? Some old school riding would be fun.  Any suggestions on trail conditions/trails to avoid would be great. Thanks-AL
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave G. on July 28, 2012, 05:33:00 PM
Nebo was so very fast  and fun this morning.  the entrance had been mowed, so no brambles on the trail, but lots of nice blackberries to eat on the way out.

Started out it was 70 at 7:30,  when I finished at 9:30, it was already 85 and humid.

Blackberries???  Sign me up!

Dave
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Dave G. on July 28, 2012, 05:38:52 PM
BTW just got back home from a great ride with my fellow trail bums Allan Weir, Russell Nichols, Shawn Cooper, and Tristin Cooper at Valley Branch Retreat.  This was my first time there, and I definitely will be back!  It was 15+ miles and 5+ hours of pure unadulterated old-school mountain biking!  Weather was hot but not oppressive.  The trails need some TLC in the way of clearing leaves and sticks, but is a refreshing change of pace from the typical IMBA spec trail.  Lots of climbing and fun descents, especially on Turkey Run from Copperhead Ridge down to Gary's Crevice.

Dave
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: heartland on July 28, 2012, 07:01:52 PM
My wife and I tried to ride Nebo today, but last night's storm knocked down a ton of trees on the trail.

We wanted to do a loop, so we parked at the south parking lot and rode north on Combs Road. Combs was hairy in a couple of spots, but not bad. When we got to Elikinsville and starting riding Nebo, though, things got bad quick. We counted over 25 downed trees - most of which will need a chainsaw to clear - in ~ 1.5 miles before we got to the Combs Rd. intersection and bailed out on Nebo.

I pulled a couple of the smaller trees off the trail, but most of them were too big to move. I didn't have a hand saw and my trusty pocket knife just didn't seem up to the task. I don't know if the bottom portion of Nebo got hit as hard, but the upper part got nailed.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Patrick Weller on July 28, 2012, 11:47:01 PM
I was at Nebo Friday. That was a bad, bad storm.  Had I gone through 15 minutes earlier, I would not be here now.  I lost count of the huge trees I hiked around.  At least 30.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Bentcrank on July 30, 2012, 10:32:49 AM
I agree. Nebo is not worth the effort. It took us a crazy amount of time to bail at Berry ridge. More trees than I could count. It seemed like we were going around one every 100 feet.

On the other hand, 19, 18 and 20 was great in hickory.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions NEBO
Post by: gnawbonelefty on August 01, 2012, 10:53:55 AM
I talked with the folks at NHF today,  they had a crew out clearing nebo yesterday. I couldn't get confirmation if they got all the trees or not.  I should be able to get confirmation tomorrow, unless someone is planning on riding there tonight and can report back.



I agree. Nebo is not worth the effort. It took us a crazy amount of time to bail at Berry ridge. More trees than I could count. It seemed like we were going around one every 100 feet.

On the other hand, 19, 18 and 20 was great in hickory.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions Gnaw Bone
Post by: gnawbonelefty on August 01, 2012, 10:56:32 AM
I rode just about everything at gnawbone.  there are a couple of trees down, but pretty much everything is ride-able.  I hope to get out next week and clear the hoot-and holler trail, is it has pretty much disappeared.

..rob
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: duppyC on August 05, 2012, 10:09:08 PM
I "rode" Nebo from the Combs RD intersection back to the HNF side on Saturday and I would estimate that we had to get off our bikes at least 50x's.  Alot of the downed trees were near the part of the trail that runs along the road.  It looked to me like it would be quite a bit of work to get it cleared.  Even where there were no trees, there was tons of trail debris.  It felt like an adventure race and was actually pretty fun.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on August 10, 2012, 10:25:57 AM
update on Nebo,  i just talked with Stacey at the forest service.  the HNF crew has been out two full days this week, but they still have more to go.  they are making progress but there was a ridiculous amount down.

..Rob
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: heartland on September 04, 2012, 03:51:19 PM
Anybody know if Nebo has been cleared of the storm damage? I would assume so, but I thought I'd check before heading out there again this weekend.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Patrick Weller on September 06, 2012, 10:42:43 AM
I talked to a guy when I was at BSCP last week.  He said Nebo is all clear.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: heartland on September 06, 2012, 12:55:17 PM
Awesome! Thanks much!

Guess I know what my Saturday plans are going to entail.  8)
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: bruce180vf on September 06, 2012, 05:27:37 PM
My wife and I rode in the HNF two weekends ago and it was great ride. Rode the long way around 4 starting at the church. Over to 18 down to 20 back up 19. Only one tree down the entire trip. It was at the downhill on 18 just comming off of 4. It is a big tree top completely blocking the trail.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Bigdaddy on September 06, 2012, 09:24:32 PM
Mostly clear,but stay clear of the bazillion sticks/limbs, or it will eat your rear pulley off.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: crit5 on September 06, 2012, 10:37:40 PM
Anyone ran into any yellowjackets at Nebo recently? I got into a mess of them several weeks back but haven't heard much talk of them since. Of course I may have been off the trail a hair going around a tree that was still down.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on September 09, 2012, 11:26:27 PM
Nebo is littered with sticks, a few logs down,  but only 3 that you have to get off for.

Gnawbone Camp is pretty good,  there are some fresh trees down, but tulip west, best a mulcahy are cleared.  there are active beavers at dallas lake, and a goat couple at andersen lake.

Len would cry if he rode mulchahy trail,  The entire pine plantation is being overtaken by the stilt grass.  the most I've seen anywhere.  :'(
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: pedalpusher on January 18, 2013, 09:24:41 AM
I wanted to get into the woods tonight for a ride, but it doesn't look like it will get down to freezing to ride at BCSP.  Anyone been at Gnawbone camp lately and want to comment on riding tonight?  Anyone want to go along?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on January 20, 2013, 03:26:37 PM
Gnawbone is in pretty good shape,  i am always up for a ride there and showing folks around
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Shark on January 27, 2013, 05:22:15 PM
Vbr is great! Some guys have been putting allot of trail work in and lots of cleared trails.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Steve Smith on March 30, 2013, 03:33:27 PM
Nebo & Hickory are in great shape today. On a scale of 1 to 10 they are a 9.9.  :)
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Shark on March 30, 2013, 04:36:24 PM
Same with VBR, get it while it's good!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: MikeHufhand on April 01, 2013, 11:44:19 AM
Nebo Hickory was in fine shape minus the usual suspects this weekend.


Nebo to Hickory(19, 18, 4, 10, 3, 20) back Nebo.


A couple of chainsaw jobs along Berry ridge rd is needed.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: meech on April 01, 2013, 12:12:35 PM
What would be the approximate mileage of that route (Nebo-> Hickory 19,18,etc, back)?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: JohnnyB on April 01, 2013, 01:09:14 PM
I've done this route returning by Comb's Road and it's about 24 - 25 miles
John
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: meech on April 02, 2013, 08:31:44 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Shark on April 02, 2013, 08:34:35 PM
What would be the approximate mileage of that route (Nebo-> Hickory 19,18,etc, back)?

nebo, hickory 19, 18, 20, nebo back we end up around 28 usually. Shorter above if you take combs road but that's not as fun.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: MikeHufhand on April 02, 2013, 11:38:21 PM
What would be the approximate mileage of that route (Nebo-> Hickory 19,18,etc, back)?


My route I posted earlier was 33.5 miles
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Ryan on April 25, 2013, 06:06:20 PM
Does anyone know what the current conditions are at Nebo and Gnaw Bone? I am heading down to Brown County Friday and was curious whether these trails might be green if Brown County is still red.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Steve Smith on April 25, 2013, 06:20:36 PM
Does anyone know what the current conditions are at Nebo and Gnaw Bone? I am heading down to Brown County Friday and was curious whether these trails might be green if Brown County is still red.

The single track part of Nebo will be fine, but the double track section will be a mess. I would recommend starting from the south end.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gnawbonelefty on April 25, 2013, 08:44:32 PM
Does anyone know what the current conditions are at Nebo and Gnaw Bone? I am heading down to Brown County Friday and was curious whether these trails might be green if Brown County is still red.

Rode Gnawbone tongiht,  it was fine,  lots of the valley trails have alluvial deposits in the stream beds from the flooding, and some giant leaf piles.  Fun times!!  The lake roads was pretty badly washed out and the hotel building flooded.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Shark on June 23, 2013, 07:31:11 PM
Nebo and hickory 19, 18, 20 were awesome yesterday. So was the brat and beer at story inn afterwards ;)
Couple horsed out muddy spots on the double track but not as bad as i would have thought.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Raleighguy29 on July 03, 2013, 04:05:02 PM
Do you guys tht ride vbr regularly think it will be up for a ride tomorrow. I know that the other trails won't be. But was hoping to take my son down there tomorrow and show him what old school hard core mountain biking is like.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: grayhound on July 03, 2013, 08:04:35 PM
     For a few of us VBR has become our go to trail with all the rain this spring and summer.  You"ll pick up a little slop here and there, but never seem to do damage to the trail. Its so leaf covered that it remains firm even if wet on top.  Just beware of the slick roots and log piles out there, they are the only hazards when things are so wet! Have fun!  O'yeah, creek crossing might be a little more interesting also!  ::)
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Shark on July 06, 2013, 02:27:09 PM
And beware the first time going down copperhead. The water bars get big at the bottom when you are going too fast....ask my collarbone how I know....
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: john7722 on October 17, 2013, 08:10:32 PM
Any one been riding Hoosier National? Looking for a current trail report from eyes on the ground please.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fwrzalin on November 12, 2013, 11:17:44 AM
Any issues riding Nebo this time of year and hunters?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Shark on November 12, 2013, 11:33:13 AM
Any issues riding Nebo this time of year and hunters?

We rode nebo/hickory on Sunday, no issues with hunters, saw a few bikers out there but overall pretty quiet. Trails were mostly good some horsed out areas in Hickory but not bad.

Just be sure to wear bright colors if you can.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: trbsami on November 12, 2013, 08:12:36 PM
Gun season runs Nov 16th- Dec1st.  Only archery has been in since Oct1st.  GENERALLY archery guys are more responsible and respectful.  They will try to be more stealthy and conscious of their surroundings.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Patrick Weller on December 28, 2013, 08:52:49 AM
Anyone been to Nebo or Hickory since  the snow thawed?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Webby on March 17, 2014, 03:29:03 PM
Curious as to the conditions of NEBO.  I know the Death March was last weekend,,  kinda wondering if anyone might have ridden it in the past few weeks..  ?  Thanks
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Fett on March 17, 2014, 03:33:25 PM
Scott Irons rode it this weekend. He posted on Facebook that he would avoid the Story end of the trail (which is normally the sloppiest part), but once up on the ridge, it was good. Park at Berry Ridge or the end lot closest to Maumee.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Webby on March 17, 2014, 03:43:07 PM
Thanks,,, I'm gonna try and hit it tomorrow. I'll take the advice and get on @ the other TH. (I call it the Houston Rd side)

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Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Webby on March 19, 2014, 10:22:42 AM
Well, I was hoping to have a report on Nebo's trail conditions. Was going to ride yesterday..... But a stupid head cold kept me grounded on the couch after my trip to the Dr.. I was going to throw caution into the wind and go anyway. But,,,, decided against it by the time I got home. :(

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Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Webby on March 21, 2014, 09:05:29 PM
Rode Nebo today. Got there about 1:00pm. Against my better judgment. I went to the Story TH. But,,, due to a head cold going on.... I could only FORCE myself to do 2.5 miles.
Still pretty muddy in spots as we all have already concluded. So,,,, if you are planning on riding Nebo. Better go to the Maumee side.

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Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: mtbikernate on April 23, 2014, 05:36:13 PM
Rode Nebo today.  Started at the North TH and went all the way to the South TH and back.


Some sloppy spots on the old fire road section within the first mile of the Northern TH.  After that, maybe a couple on the whole trail.  The rest is in great shape.


Handful of downed trees to watch out for, some in spots where you want to go fast but you have to get off the bike to climb over the log.  Some are rideable, some not.  Lots of derailleur killers out there, so pick your lines carefully.  No parts were eaten by trail debris on my bike today, but not for lack of trying.  Lots of stuff was bouncing off my spokes.


Saw a handful of mushroom hunters and some IU students working on some class project.


FYI, 135 has a detour posted south of 46.  The posted detour appears to take you through Nashville and around the West Side of BCSP, possibly sending you down 446 and around.  I was NOT interested in that detour.  I stopped at Hesitation Point and talked to Tad.  He suggested trying to go by VBR.  I took Mt Liberty Rd. in Gnaw Bone to Valley Branch Rd. and got back on 135 at Van Buren Elementary.  I avoided whatever work was occurring on 135.  That detour is MUCH quicker to get to Story.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Mattntp on May 04, 2014, 03:15:11 PM
Rode Nebo north to south yesterday. Lots of trees to climb over. Otherwise pretty good except for some muddy spots. Rode trail 19, lots of trees down. Trail 18, lots of large mud holes from horse traffic. I fell over into one of them. It was pretty gross. Rode trail 4, wasn't awful like trail 18. Rode some of trail 12, which also had lots of trees down. Camped along trail 12 and rode trsil 21 back this morning which ,surprise, had a lot of trees down. Took combs all the way back to the north Nebo ridge trsilhead. Combs was a blast as always.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Mattntp on May 04, 2014, 04:48:41 PM
Oh yeah, ticks. picked off 7 while in the forest and found 2 at home. On a similar overnight last year I had almost 30 ticks
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Webby on May 11, 2014, 10:35:21 PM
Rode Nebo North to South (out and back) on Friday May 9th.  I lost count of the trees I had to climb over going to the South TH. Only a few were ride-able.  One of the downed trees was basically the tree TOP and you are forced to trudge thru the brush to get back on the trail. This is closer to the South TH.
NOW,,,, multiply that by 2 for the trip back to the North TH.   :o   
A few wet spots mainly on the fire lane section during the first mile or so.
I'm curious as to WHO is responsible for clearing the trails of these fallen trees ?  I'm assuming the forestry staff  ????    If so, is it our job to notify them or do they just do a random check ?
As far as ticks, I found 2 slightly attached behind my left knee when I got home.
It was a beautiful day for sure !!!! 
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fwrzalin on May 21, 2014, 12:55:51 PM
What are the current conditions on Nebo, still climbing trees?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Webby on May 21, 2014, 02:46:40 PM
What are the current conditions on Nebo, still climbing trees?
I wish I could answer your question. I've not been back since my last post.
If you do go,, PLEASE post an update as I'm wanting to go back. But,, would like to wait until the trees have been cleared first. 
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on May 21, 2014, 02:53:57 PM
I'm curious as to WHO is responsible for clearing the trails of these fallen trees ?  I'm assuming the forestry staff  ??? ?    If so, is it our job to notify them or do they just do a random check ?


HMBA is not currently allowed to chainsaw on HNF property.  Forest Service Staff do the saw work.  Yes, it would be helpful to let them know about downed trees.


Lots of info on Hoosier National here. 


http://www.fs.usda.gov/activity/hoosier/recreation/bicycling/?recid=41466&actid=24 (http://www.fs.usda.gov/activity/hoosier/recreation/bicycling/?recid=41466&actid=24)


Lots of trails are open to mountain biking, some are less fun than others, but for those looking for a back country adventure, there are some good options out there.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Webby on May 22, 2014, 09:51:57 PM
Paul,  Thanks for the info. Greatly appreciated.  I'll try and call HNF headquarters next Tue when I'm off again.
And thanks for the link as well.  Will come in handy should I decide to tackle some other trails @ HNF.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Kirk Hilton on May 27, 2014, 06:19:09 PM
Rode Hickory on Monday,  horse bogs were a plenty.  Parked at the Norman TH and rode about 2 hours.  On way back to parking area, got stopped for a trail pass by a ranger.  Have been ridding in Hoosier National for almost ten years and this is the first time I have seen a ranger out.  And he was back off the beaten path.   Good thing I happened to buy a TP and not poach.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Kirk Hilton on July 12, 2014, 04:21:24 PM
Did the racer 40 route today.  A couple of down trees on the Nebo climb from the parking lot.  Midwest trail ride was a couple weeks ago so the trails were beat down and the house bogs were not that bad.  Remember there are other places to ride besides BCSP.  Old School trails.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Willyjaybob on July 13, 2014, 02:09:15 PM
Old School...back when spandex clad roadies didn't run you off the trails and it was okay to have a bike that did'n't cost $3,000 =  ;D .


Love Nebo. Hoping to head down next week for a day. Does HMBA take the saws out there these days or do they focus only on the heavier use trails?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on July 13, 2014, 08:56:42 PM
NEBO is in the Hoosier National Forest .  National Forests are difficult to get approval for volunteers to chainsaw.  HMBA does not have the ability to chainsaw on National Forest property. 

Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Shark on July 18, 2014, 11:48:39 AM
Old School...back when spandex clad roadies didn't run you off the trails and it was okay to have a bike that did'n't cost $3,000 =  ;D .


Luckily you don't find too many of those type of riders at nebo, hickory, VBR, Gnawbone....heck, you don't find any traffic at these trails ;)
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: pigfarm on July 18, 2014, 01:11:32 PM
Speaking of which, is camp season over at Gnawbone yet?  I'm ready to tag along with another group ride this year.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Fett on July 18, 2014, 02:01:17 PM
I think this is the last week of camp. GnawBone Lefty and I were talking about it Wed Night.  I would think they would be good to ride again next weekend.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Mattntp on August 04, 2014, 12:44:03 PM
Rode Nebo and a few hickory ridge trails Saturday. Conditions were great, not too many logs down. The only problem was all the spider webs across the trail. Lead rider gets wrapped up like a mummy. I don't know why those trails never get used. Stopped by BCSP on the way home to hit green valley, which was a blast as usual, but pretty busy.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: fwrzalin on August 24, 2014, 07:01:28 AM
Nebo was in great shape yesterday, nice to avoid the Saturday crowd at BCSP.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: MikeHufhand on August 25, 2014, 12:56:40 AM
Rode Nebo today(Sunday) and even after the rain it was good.  Biggest puddle was in the gravel parking lot.(north TH)
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Allen Edwards on November 15, 2014, 09:55:19 AM
Rode Nebo and Combs Rd. yesterday.  Both were in great shape. 
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: mtbikernate on December 14, 2014, 11:24:10 AM
Did Nebo, as well as 21, 3, 10, 4, 18, and 20 on Hickory, as well as Combs yesterday.


The first mile and a half of Nebo is wet, as always. Up on the ridgeline, and especially the singletrack is in great shape. Hickory is more spotty. Some areas are in really good shape (3 was probably the best of the bunch), but others are pretty messy (21 and 10 were pretty sloppy). The rest is hit-or-miss between good spots and horse bogs. Combs wasn't awful, but it was still pretty wet.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: ELduder on February 09, 2015, 09:53:18 AM
Rode Combs road Saturday early. It was nice and frozen then but probably a slop fest by afternoon.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Fett on February 09, 2015, 11:15:21 AM
Rode Combs road Saturday early. It was nice and frozen then but probably a slop fest by afternoon.

I came through Combs about 10:30 and it was starting to thaw.  After noon, the entire HNF area was a combo of slushy ice and soupy gravel. I had a blast.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: meech on March 18, 2015, 07:51:38 AM
Since Brown County was "red", rode Nebo yesterday starting at the north trailhead west of Story (heading south).  Muddy climbing up to the ridge as expected but I've seen it in worse condition.  It dried out nicely once past the north double track sections and the rest of the ride was excellent and dry.  I always forget how flowy the southern section can be although the occasional downed tree had to be removed although one will require a chainsaw or a ramp to be built.  Had an excellent lunch at the picnic bench just above the south Nebo trailhead (thanks HMBA for the great bike rack and bench) and looped back north on Combs road where the south gravel road is dry enough that you don't get that weird "earthquake" visual effect riding over saturated clay/gravel.  The frogs were incredibly loud and totally invisible.  Once past the Combs gate going into dirt road, there were the usual mud-pits but again, I've seen it worse and I think we saw more mud on our backs from the initial climb up Nebo ridge then this section.  Saturday's Death March doesn't seem to have torn any of the route up very much but I think most avoided these trails since Elkinsville cemetery was thankfully not picked.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on March 18, 2015, 08:36:18 AM
FYI,  HMBA does not maintain Nebo.  And we did not build the bench or bike rack.  Its not that we don't care about Nebo or want to work on Nebo, but it is much more difficult to volunteer on National Forest trails as opposed to State Park trails.  Chainsaw work on HNF trails is done by their crews.  They don't go in for trees as the fall, but instead clear each trail periodically. 


This means that trees can stay down for longer.  This is part of the character of riding in HNF.  Its more of an adventure some times than riding in the State Park.



We are working on building relationships with HNF and just meet with HNF staff this Monday. 


One issue is that HMBA would want to reroute sections of the trial (the sections that are always muddy), rather than to try and maintain those chronically muddy sections.  rerouting a trail in HNF requires NEPA reviews that are expensive and take a long time to complete. 



Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: mtbikernate on April 15, 2015, 01:55:41 PM
Rode Nebo yesterday. Ridgeline was in amazing condition considering the rain the day before. Bone dry up there. The climb up, that's always muddy, was especially squishy. Especially with the leaf litter holding moisture from the seeps.


Someone has been out there. I saw evidence that some wet areas had some drains kicked in. Saw one downed tree that had been chopped with an axe somewhat recently.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: grayhound on June 14, 2015, 09:24:08 AM
     Encountered my first Rattle snake yesterday in my 5-6 years of riding Nebo! He was stretched out across  the fast section of trail 1/4-1/2 mile from the south TH.  Big fat boy looked like he'd just eaten a family of squirrels!  They're out there, be aware!  Rest of trail very good except a couple of trees down and starting to get a bit overgrown. 18,19,20 deep mud in spots but always fun
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Raleighguy29 on June 14, 2015, 01:39:50 PM
Those trees have been down for a long time.


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Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: grayhound on June 14, 2015, 10:20:25 PM
     The large one on a rather steep,rocky descent as well as one or two smaller, almost hoppable as well, have been there awhile. But there were one or two others that were new since last weekend.  A large branchy one fell along the trail. Couldn't tell you exactly where it is, just reporting in on the constantly changing and always fun and challenging greatest trail in Indiana!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: grayhound on June 29, 2015, 07:09:31 AM
Nebo is now clear! The forest service cleared all of the downed trees and even the log-overs,
 at least from the Combs intersect to the south TH. Didn't ride from the north lot up, as we parked at the south lot to avoid the muddy initial climb. There were a couple of the usual muddy spots and a bit of overgrowth but otherwise trail was awesome! 18,19,20 loop was fun although 18 was pretty sloppy in some areas.  Enjoyed riding dirt for a change!
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: rmc on February 22, 2016, 01:33:16 PM
Rode Nebo Saturday, hit 70 degrees.  Nebo was actually pretty dry, lot of the forest gravel roads were sloppy but not terrible.  Lot's of fallen branches and limbs from the winter storms, good log-over practice.  Comb's road was a complete mess per usual on the bottom portion.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: ELduder on February 27, 2016, 08:00:15 PM
Rode today also just rode from the south nebo trail head about 3 miles in and it was prefect.  20 was in nice shape too
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: donjoses on June 13, 2016, 03:23:27 PM
Rode all of Nebo yesterday and it's in good shape.  The wet and muddy spots have finally dried out.   
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: donjoses on July 15, 2016, 09:41:08 PM
Nebo was in great shape today. 2 trees that could use cutting. First one was about 0.5 mile before the combs road trail interesection coming from the north lot. It could probably be cleared with a good handsaw. Multiple branches there. 2nd tree was just north of the first "intersection" with Berry Ridge road coming from the north lot. It needs a chainsaw.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: gmcttr on July 20, 2016, 09:52:35 AM
I didn't think the trail from combs road to Browning Hill was open to bicycle traffic. Anyone care to educate me?
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: Paul_Arlinghaus on July 20, 2016, 12:00:00 PM
There is no legal trail to the top of Browning Mountain. 
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: tony on July 20, 2016, 12:41:31 PM
First rule about riding around Browning Mountain: Don't talk about riding around Browning Mountain
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: ted_kissel26 on July 02, 2018, 11:42:52 AM
Does anyone know if this trail any trail d are ridable?  Herd there’s lost of trees down.
Title: Re: Trail Conditions
Post by: cal_len1 on July 05, 2018, 09:01:20 PM
I last rode trail D 4 weeks ago, and it was fine. Nebo was completely unrideable though, and it has not gotten any better. There has been one bad storm since then though, so it may have changed.